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Old 05-11-2012, 04:30 PM   #3391
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Hey fellas,

I am about to pull the trigger on a new GPS, and was looking for feedback from you guys who have used the Montana now for a bit. I've read parts of this thread, from the begining and skipped through a lot of the middle and caught up at the end. I see the new update has some issues, but that doesn't really bother me as I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

Overall, now that you have some experience with the unit would you still recommend it? Any issues with mounting I should be aware of? Anything else to add as sort of a summary?

Thanks guys!

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Old 05-11-2012, 05:59 PM   #3392
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Overall, now that you have some experience with the unit would you still recommend it? Any issues with mounting I should be aware of? Anything else to add as sort of a summary?
There just is not a better gps for motorcycle use right now. Sure, if you need Bluetooth or media players then get yourself a Zumo, but if all you want is the best gps, then get the Montana.

As far as mounting goes, get the Garmin Rugged Mount, and a lanyard, and when you use the mount, lock the gps into it so you know for sure it's not going to fall out. There has been one report of the gps coming out of the mount but odds are it wasn't locked in.

The "Rugged Mount" is only about $35 extra, but make sure you also order the AMPS mount, assuming you already have a RAM stalk on your bars.



Click the image to see the mount on the GPSCity site.

Don't get the 650T model - the Topo 100k maps are fairly useless, I've heard. The 650 is the same, minus the Topo maps.

You decide if you want the 650 with the camera, or the 600 without. Aside from that, they are identical. I think, for an extra $40 or so, the camera is worth having.
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"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:12 PM   #3393
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There just is not a better gps for motorcycle use right now. Sure, if you need Bluetooth or media players then get yourself a Zumo, but if all you want is the best gps, then get the Montana.

As far as mounting goes, get the Garmin Rugged Mount, and a lanyard, and when you use the mount, lock the gps into it so you know for sure it's not going to fall out. There has been one report of the gps coming out of the mount but odds are it wasn't locked in.
Ok, good summary, thanks for that.

The bluetooth was kind of a con for me, so I was kind of looking at the zumo 66X. The reported zooming issues on those units to see smaller side roads, and the unit not tracking correctly when on those roads is turning me to the Montana. And I can just bluetooth to my phone for music anyway.

I haven't come across anyone talking about these problems with the Montana, just the reported software power problems as a main issue right now.

Anyone have any issues with forest/county/dirt roads? Such as having to zoom really far in to see them, or it not tracking correctly?
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:13 PM   #3394
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Bringing a backup
No backup necessary. My unit works very well and I can avoid the two issues in the Beta I have reported to Garmin.

Besides, if for some reason the unit failed, I was navigating my way through jungles long before GPS's were invented. Not planning on visiting any jungles this trip

Good Riding To All...It's Summer!!!!

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Old 05-11-2012, 07:38 PM   #3395
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I just noticed the cover end of my security screwdriver is missing. Wonder if Garmin sells replacements?

When I got it the end used to stick on, so I put case (bullet) sizing wax on it. Guess it did too good a job, now the cover is missing
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:44 PM   #3396
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I just noticed the cover end of my security screwdriver is missing. Wonder if Garmin sells replacements?

When I got it the end used to stick on, so I put case (bullet) sizing wax on it. Guess it did too good a job, now the cover is missing
Click the image to go to the site.

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Old 05-11-2012, 07:50 PM   #3397
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Anyone have any issues with forest/county/dirt roads? Such as having to zoom really far in to see them, or it not tracking correctly?
This is very dependent on maps. Garmin maps tend to lose back/secondary roads if you zoom out past 1.2km, not sure what the miles equivalent is. But the good news is that Open Street Maps and others can retain detail as far out as 5km, and the Montana's display is so sharp and detailed that you can still use the maps at those zoom levels.

Here's an example of an old map, Garmin's Canada Enhanced Basemap, one of very few Garmin products which retain high levels of detail when zoomed out.

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Old 05-11-2012, 08:22 PM   #3398
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Track is not completely displayed

Sorry if this has been discussed before but this is a very long thread and the search wouldn't find anything relevant for me.

I made a long track in Google Earth, imported it into Basecamp then loaded the .gpx file to the Montana.
As shown in following pictures, the Montana has truncated the track.

Basecamp:



and on Montana:


Is there a limit to the length of tracks that the Montana will display? This track is 590 miles, 13591 points.
I guess I should have made 2 or more smaller tracks?

Thanks, John
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:36 PM   #3399
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Hey fellas,

I am about to pull the trigger on a new GPS, and was looking for feedback from you guys who have used the Montana now for a bit. I've read parts of this thread, from the begining and skipped through a lot of the middle and caught up at the end. I see the new update has some issues, but that doesn't really bother me as I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

Overall, now that you have some experience with the unit would you still recommend it? Any issues with mounting I should be aware of? Anything else to add as sort of a summary?

Thanks guys!

PM me when you get back. I have both a Zumo 550 and a Montana so you can see them side by side and kick the tires a bit.
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Old 05-11-2012, 08:50 PM   #3400
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:04 PM   #3401
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that's what I was thinking... with all the recent changes. Montana is not high on my list for being ready for a trip. got a Nuvi and iphone 4 for backups.
it wasnt so long ago that ALL trips were GPS less.
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Old 05-12-2012, 04:42 AM   #3402
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Is there a limit to the length of tracks that the Montana will display? This track is 590 miles, 13591 points.
I guess I should have made 2 or more smaller tracks?
I think I read that tracks can only have 10,000 points displayed at a time, so that would about line up with how much of yours is not showing on the gps.
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Old 05-12-2012, 05:40 AM   #3403
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Sorry if this has been discussed before but this is a very long thread and the search wouldn't find anything relevant for me.

I made a long track in Google Earth, imported it into Basecamp then loaded the .gpx file to the Montana.
As shown in following pictures, the Montana has truncated the track.

Basecamp:



and on Montana:


Is there a limit to the length of tracks that the Montana will display? This track is 590 miles, 13591 points.
I guess I should have made 2 or more smaller tracks?

Thanks, John
As Emmbeedee pointed out, any single Track can only be 10,000 points. You can set the Transfer properties in BaseCamp to filter your tracks upon transfer to less than 10K points.

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Old 05-12-2012, 06:19 AM   #3404
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Thanks Emmbeedee, DRTBYK.

I split the track into 2 and that solved it but will look into the transfer settings in BaseCamp as Dan suggested.

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Old 05-12-2012, 07:00 AM   #3405
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I figured out how to send paper topos via ExpertGPS to the Montana. Very cool. I'm not sure what I was doing wrong. It may have been that I originally was trying to dump them directly to the uSD card via the slot on the laptop. I was also able to transfer OSM 24K digital topos of Nevada to the unit. I always seem to buy some new gadget a month before a big vacation.....then scramble trying to figure it out.

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