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Old 05-23-2012, 11:20 AM   #3601
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Where is the best place to buy one of these? GPScity? I had someone tell me to check out REI but they were more expensive than online even

Also, as a newb to these dern things, is it possible to load points on them from a roll chart?
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Old 05-23-2012, 11:29 AM   #3602
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Where is the best place to buy one of these? GPScity? I had someone tell me to check out REI but they were more expensive than online even

Also, as a newb to these dern things, is it possible to load points on them from a roll chart?
Check the "Wisdom and FAQ Thread".

You can load waypoints, but what do you mean by "from a roll chart"? When I hear the term "Roll Chart", I think paper...
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:14 PM   #3603
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Where is the best place to buy one of these? GPScity? I had someone tell me to check out REI but they were more expensive than online even

Also, as a newb to these dern things, is it possible to load points on them from a roll chart?
GPS City $465.94
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:33 PM   #3604
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Old 05-23-2012, 12:41 PM   #3605
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GPS City $465.94
Discount Shockwave $444.01
is that for the 650 or 650t or 600?


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Check the "You can load waypoints, but what do you mean by "from a roll chart"? When I hear the term "Roll Chart", I think paper...

yea I mean could I transcribe the roll charts direction into the gps... with a lot of patience... if I wanted to?
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Old 05-23-2012, 02:37 PM   #3606
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yea I mean could I transcribe the roll charts direction into the gps... with a lot of patience... if I wanted to?
"a lot of patience" are the key words here

The last time I used roll charts the directions were something like, turn left on RT 505. Ride 1.25 miles then make a right onto a single track dirt lane.

Measuring those 1.25 miles can be done with the "Measure Tool" but Lat/Lon points would sure be nicer.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:05 PM   #3607
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Routes from BaseCamp...

This might have been covered somewhere here but once again: I drew backroad "routes" across a State then send them to the Montana. Checked the transfer to the Montana for the routes in that State and by zooming them in I noticed that they are all straight lined rather than follwing the exact contoured drawn routes of those in BaseCamp.

Must I physically be at the trail head, not checking from my armchair in order to get exact contoured road following routes?

Thank you...
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #3608
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Also, as a newb to these dern things, is it possible to load points on them from a roll chart?
What kind of roll chart?

This is an example of Dual Sport Roll Charts in CA

http://www.sneakersmc.com/maps/Roll%...Roll%20Cht.PDF

It is not easy, but if all roads and trails show on the map you are using, you can hand draw a Track if there are enough points to verify you are still on the chart. Pretty easy in Nat forests but almost impossible in the desert.

By far the easy way is to just ride the roll chart and record the Track.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:04 PM   #3609
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Where is the best place to buy one of these? GPScity? I had someone tell me to check out REI but they were more expensive than online even
I've got nothing against GPScity, they seem like a great operation. However, I got mine at REI partly because of dividend cash back and party because they have a pretty generous satisfaction guarantee. Theoretically, if something goes wrong and Garmin won't warranty the unit, REI would.

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Old 05-23-2012, 05:17 PM   #3610
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Here's a similar one but it's the TAT;

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Old 05-23-2012, 05:22 PM   #3611
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Here's a similar one but it's the TAT;

This one would be easier as it has the lat/lon printed for each turn
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:34 PM   #3612
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This one would be easier as it has the lat/lon printed for each turn
For the TAT you have to use software like Basecamp, With basecamp you put the points onto the map manually, then put the mapped route into the GPS from basecamp. everyone I have read that does it this way says it's really worth the time because you get to know the route as you program it.

Now for the TET (trans eastern trail) were all volunteers so you just download the GPX file, load it either direct into the GPS or put it into base came and convert it to a route.

Either way, to get the full use out of your GPS you need to learn the basics of Basecamp (basecamp is free).

I been using GPS for over 20 years now. First for driving with the RV. I always said "gps is the best thing you can give a marriage". No more fighting over maps and directions (or lack of). But to use it right, you need to learn the programs that lets you pick the route.

And always use sense. Double check your routes before blindly following them. I have forgot, and I have ended up running through places like center city Norfolk trying to get to the outerbanks. Its not fun.
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:14 PM   #3613
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RAM Mount/Camera Use

Can someone tell me if the Garmin Montana 650, that's in a RAM mount powered off of a 12v socket/mini usb port, will shut off when disconnected from the 12v power source and mount to take a picture. I'm hoping it will automatically switch to internal power.

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Old 05-23-2012, 08:31 PM   #3614
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When power is removed a prompt pops up asking if you want to stay on or shut down. If you don't press anything within something like 30 seconds it shuts off.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:07 PM   #3615
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Help - 650t Battery DEAD

Hi all, I have a problem and hope someone can point me in the right direction

I am travelling, so sending my GPS to a repair shop is out of the question, sthis is what happened yesterday near Sarejevo.

There are no roads or not many and coming in from Croatia, we covered about 100km of 'there be dragons' terrritory. When I did finally get on a road it knew, the screen froze, so I pulled over and removed the battery to reset it but then it just made a beep, the screen went from total 100% dark to about 90% dark and I could see nor do nothing!

I tried this a few times, then took the LI battery out and powered it from bike cradle, phew it still works and when I installed 3AA rechargeables, it also worked, so the LI battery is either faulty, or the charge/power system internally in the GPS is crook.

Now, it is useable the way it is, not ideal but works.

I am currently in Bosnia and will be heading up to Austria/Germany soon for the HU meeting and VSRI meetings.

My question is, how do I get this fixed, under warrenty WITHOUT sending it away?

Should I contact the seller(I bought it on eBay as a NEW unit) or as it is registered with Garmin, contact them direct?

My preffered option would be for me to ride to a Garmin dealer where there is a replacement unit to swap out, but I am doubtful this would happen.

My units serial number was well outside the earlier problem units range but I have had a few white screens during my travels, which can be a bit unerving to say the least.

Any thoughts to set my mind at ease?

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