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Old 09-12-2012, 04:05 AM   #4996
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Can not tell you what to do, but I do not think you'll get anything better than what you already have.

Sounds to me like this is likely an as of yet undiagnosed issue.

Are you going to be happy with a refurb that exhibits the same behavior?
Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm basically screwed.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:40 AM   #4997
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm basically screwed.
You're not screwed if you get your money back.
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Old 09-12-2012, 04:59 AM   #4998
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Yeah that's what I was thinking, I'm basically screwed.
Get your money back, buy another NEW one some where else. Chances are, a refurb is going to suck. From what I can tell, Garmin has really shitty QC. It's a luck of the draw if you get a unit that works correctly. I've seen it time and time again.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:02 AM   #4999
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When the new battery gets here I will report the differences. I tried AA's and had the same problem. Hmmm....?
I bought one of the first 600's available...
it shut down multiple times with the stock battery...
emailed Garmin and they sent a new battery...
had no effect.

Started using AA lithium batteries and it worked just fine..
Had to send that unit back due to screen calibration issues and the newer unit had the same problem with the stock battery...
Again, I put the AA's in and it stopped the problem....
The vibrations thru the bars/rubber isolated mount/Garmin rugged cradle on my 690 are no doubt causing the shutdowns....
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:17 AM   #5000
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You're not screwed if you get your money back.
Here is why I'm screwed.....I got the unit for a really good price $479....haven't seen anything close to that besides REI sale at $499. Second I bought the CN NA maps...if I return it and get another one Garmin won't transfer the maps...they said they would if I exchange it. The place I bought it from doesn't stock them anymore. Wish I had kept the CN Maps on the SD card I had at first

All add one more thing. Rode in to work this morning about 20 miles....all back roads no interstate....RPMs below 5K. Didn't crash once....

I'm going to try an isolate the mount more see if that helps.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:20 AM   #5001
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Here is why I'm screwed.....I got the unit for a really good price $479....haven't seen anything close to that besides REI sale at $499. Second I bought the CN NA maps...if I return it and get another one Garmin won't transfer the maps...they said they would if I exchange it. The place I bought it from doesn't stock them anymore.
In that case, I'd send it in for a refurb. There's nothing to worry about with Garmin refurbished units. They are as good as new, contrary to what Albie thinks.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:21 AM   #5002
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Here is why I'm screwed.....I got the unit for a really good price $479....haven't seen anything close to that besides REI sale at $499. Second I bought the CN NA maps...if I return it and get another one Garmin won't transfer the maps...they said they would if I exchange it. The place I bought it from doesn't stock them anymore. Wish I had kept the CN Maps on the SD card I had at first
Ouch.

I don't have any great advice for you, but wanted to let you know that I empathize with you.
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Old 09-12-2012, 05:49 AM   #5003
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Offcamber, before you send it back for a refurb, can you mount it on the bike without the isolators and see what happens? I suspect the isolators you have in there are setting up a resonance that's really exploiting a possible weakness in your unit. It would be worth a try, IMHO...you can't really break the unit any more than it is.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:03 AM   #5004
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Get your money back, buy another NEW one some where else. Chances are, a refurb is going to suck. From what I can tell, Garmin has really shitty QC. It's a luck of the draw if you get a unit that works correctly. I've seen it time and time again.


Um...yeah. At least a refurb has been gone over. A "new" unit probably just fell into a box at the end of the assembly belt.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:37 AM   #5005
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Here is why I'm screwed.....I got the unit for a really good price $479....haven't seen anything close to that besides REI sale at $499. Second I bought the CN NA maps...if I return it and get another one Garmin won't transfer the maps...they said they would if I exchange it.
Did you get the maps from the same place? If so tell them the maps will not do you any good and ask for your money back on the Montana and maps.

Regardless, it sucks that you are having issues with the unit.

Have you tried running it without batteries and just off bike power from the mount? Maybe it's the mount and not the unit.

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Old 09-12-2012, 06:37 AM   #5006
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In that case, I'd send it in for a refurb. There's nothing to worry about with Garmin refurbished units. They are as good as new, contrary to what Albie thinks.
Actually contrast to what I KNOW, I've had 2 478 refurbs and they were bigger junk then the original unit I bought. Stick to talking about what you know and stop trying to pretend you think you have a clue what other people have actually experienced.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:46 AM   #5007
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In that case, I'd send it in for a refurb. There's nothing to worry about with Garmin refurbished units. They are as good as new, contrary to what Albie thinks.
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Actually contrast to what I KNOW, I've had 2 478 refurbs and they were bigger junk then the original unit I bought. Stick to talking about what you know and stop trying to pretend you think you have a clue what other people have actually experienced.
Based on the above comments it sounds like the odds are about the same as buying a new one.

Some of us have had good luck and others have not.

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Old 09-12-2012, 06:53 AM   #5008
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Based on the above comments it sounds like the odds are about the same as buying a new one.

Some of us have had good luck and others have not.

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Which goes back to my original statement, Garmin QC is a crap shoot. If you get a good unit hold on to it. If you don't, then keep returning them till you do. I got one of the good ZUMO 550's. Never had a glitch in 5 years of service. Doesn't change the fact that many people had absolute nightmares with theirs. The reason I bought my 650T from REI is because I can return it for a new unit or my money back no questions asked with their 100% satisfaction return policy. So far I think I got one of the good Montana's. Haven't had a single issue with it yet.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:01 AM   #5009
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Actually contrast to what I KNOW, I've had 2 478 refurbs and they were bigger junk then the original unit I bought. Stick to talking about what you know and stop trying to pretend you think you have a clue what other people have actually experienced.
I've had Garmins since about 2002, and many different models, including refurbs. So I am talking about what I know. My wife ended up with a Montana refurb and it looked and worked like new.

No need to get your knickers in a twist if you don't agree.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:09 AM   #5010
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I've had Garmins since about 2002, and many different models, including refurbs. So I am talking about what I know. My wife ended up with a Montana refurb and it looked and worked like new.

No need to get your knickers in a twist if you don't agree.
No need to make stuff up either if you don't agree. I've been around Garmin products even longer then you and I've gone through many. The battery compartment issue has been around since my very FIRST E-Map. I've also experienced it with at least 3 other units.


The FACT is, these issues have nothing to do with the MODEL, it has to do with the particular unit. So what, your wife ended up with a good working refurb. You ended up with a good working brand new unit. Just goes to prove it's a complete crap shoot.
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