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Old 09-12-2012, 07:15 AM   #5011
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No need to make stuff up either if you don't agree. I've been around Garmin products even longer then you and I've gone through many. The battery compartment issue has been around since my very FIRST E-Map. I've also experienced it with at least 3 other units.


The FACT is, these issues have nothing to do with the MODEL, it has to do with the particular unit. So what, your wife ended up with a good working refurb. You ended up with a good working brand new unit. Just goes to prove it's a complete crap shoot.
What do you think I've "made up"?
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:18 AM   #5012
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What do you think I've "made up"?
The nothing to worry about refurb units. Plenty of forums with plenty of people stating just the opposite and speaking from first hand EXPERIENCE, as well as my own. Out of the FOUR refub units I've had, only one of them worked correctly.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:20 AM   #5013
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The nothing to worry about refurb units. Plenty of forums with plenty of people stating just the opposite and speaking from first hand EXPERIENCE, as well as my own. Out of the FOUR refub units I've had, only one of them worked correctly.
Sorry, I didn't make that up. I said so based on my experience and that of the people I know with Garmin units.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:21 AM   #5014
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Actually contrast to what I KNOW, I've had 2 478 refurbs and they were bigger junk then the original unit I bought. Stick to talking about what you know and stop trying to pretend you think you have a clue what other people have actually experienced.

Dude, you need to cut down on the caffeine.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:25 AM   #5015
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Sorry, I didn't make that up. I said so based on my experience and that of the people I know with Garmin units.
Right, that's what you said.
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Old 09-12-2012, 07:29 AM   #5016
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Right, that's what you said.
Can I say it any better than that?
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:41 AM   #5017
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Offcamber, before you send it back for a refurb, can you mount it on the bike without the isolators and see what happens? I suspect the isolators you have in there are setting up a resonance that's really exploiting a possible weakness in your unit. It would be worth a try, IMHO...you can't really break the unit any more than it is.
I did that...its defiantly vibration harmonic issue. The unit worked fine when hooked to the bikes power but not physically to the bike. I have a lot of dampening already. I'll try more.

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Old 09-12-2012, 09:51 AM   #5018
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I bought one of the first 600's available...
it shut down multiple times with the stock battery...
emailed Garmin and they sent a new battery...
had no effect.

Started using AA lithium batteries and it worked just fine..
Had to send that unit back due to screen calibration issues and the newer unit had the same problem with the stock battery...
Again, I put the AA's in and it stopped the problem....
The vibrations thru the bars/rubber isolated mount/Garmin rugged cradle on my 690 are no doubt causing the shutdowns....
I waited until the first run after the screen calibration issue was solved. first thing I did was put foam weather strip tape between the battery and device and have never had the vibration problem. Mine is mostly used for stone road use so it gets more then it's share of vibration caused by the stock F800 forks.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:52 AM   #5019
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Ok, can we cut the "Garmin sucks" or "Garmin doesn't suck" crap and get back to solutions to issues and how to's? None of the calling names and stuff helps. Sorry some people have had issues and are not happy but venting about it here doesn't help anything.
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Old 09-12-2012, 09:53 AM   #5020
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The nothing to worry about refurb units. Plenty of forums with plenty of people stating just the opposite and speaking from first hand EXPERIENCE, as well as my own. Out of the FOUR refub units I've had, only one of them worked correctly.
Over the years I have received a couple Nuvi referbs from Garmin, never had any problems with any of them.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:00 AM   #5021
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I have no issue with refurbs per say. If the unit had a definitive problem then I bet they fix it np. However I can see my unit going back...the tech checks it over can't find an issue and just puts it back in circulation. Then some poor slob like me gets it as an exchange and has issues...

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Old 09-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #5022
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I have no issue with refurbs per say. If the unit had a definitive problem then I bet they fix it np. However I can see my unit going back...the tech checks it over can't find an issue and just puts it back in circulation. Then some poor slob like me gets it as an exchange and has issues...

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You said you tried with AAs, have you tried leaving the battery tray empty and running solely on bike power? This would tell if there truly is an intermittent power connection in the 12v line. I have had the loose battery issue with all firmwares, but never has the message said anything about loss of power, only messages that an unapproved battery was in use or simple shutdowns, or white screen hangs.

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Old 09-12-2012, 10:35 AM   #5023
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Yup did that, the Battery seems so tight in there to begin with I'd be surprised if that was the issue anyway.
Same for me, I couldn't believe that it wasn't tight enough, but I put THREE ear plugs in there and haven't had a shutdown since, in 6 months. (Probably need to replace them yearly as they will take a set.)

However, I ride mostly highway, so my occaisional bit of washboard probably isn't a good torture test. Still, for $1.50, might as well try it before selling the unit.
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Old 09-12-2012, 10:54 AM   #5024
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I have no issue with refurbs per say. If the unit had a definitive problem then I bet they fix it np. However I can see my unit going back...the tech checks it over can't find an issue and just puts it back in circulation. Then some poor slob like me gets it as an exchange and has issues...

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The problem is what if the refurb was returned by a hiker because it had the screen calibration problem. So Garmin fixes that. No guaranteeing you won't have the battery compartment issue when you run it on a bike.
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:23 AM   #5025
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No guaranteeing you won't have the battery compartment issue when you run it on a bike.
It's almost guaranteed that the Montana when used on a Motorcycle will eventually have the battery problem. Some will see it much sooner than others, but both my wife's and mine started giving the battery shutdowns after a couple of months, even on relatively smooth paved roads. But not since I put the earplugs into the battery cases.

But this is on a couple of DR650 and F650/800GS, not 690 KTMs.
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