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Old 09-10-2013, 05:04 AM   #9421
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I know it's been posted before, but I can't come up with a search to find it.

How do you convert tracks to picture files than have the picture as an overlay on the map?

I know a few folks on here use this method to ensure they are on the track.


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Not really on topic for the Montana thread but you could start here: http://gpx2img.com/

Or this, which is free: http://www.javawa.nl/imgfromgpx_en.html
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:32 AM   #9422
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Tracks to map overlays

Thanks you Mr. Falcon.

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Not really on topic for the Montana thread but you could start here: http://gpx2img.com/

Or this, which is free: http://www.javawa.nl/imgfromgpx_en.html
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:21 AM   #9423
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I know it's been posted before, but I can't come up with a search to find it.

How do you convert tracks to picture files than have the picture as an overlay on the map?

I know a few folks on here use this method to ensure they are on the track.


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John, here are some notes I wrote up when someone else asked me by PM. I refer to it myself, since I only do it a couple of times a year.

How to make a map overlay:
A map overlay is an otherwise transparant high resolution image of your route line(s) that carries a tiny memory footprint.

Reasons to use / distribute a .gmap overlay of a long route:

A. It is always visible above any other maps on your GPS device once loaded and selected to display.
B. It is not subject to re-routing complications if you deviate from your intended route.
C. It is universally distributable to any garmin GPS device, whereas tracks have size restrictions and routes may be calculated differently on different devices.
D. You don't need any other map loaded to see it, just the basemap and you'll have a line to follow.
E. Redundancy. Why use routes too? Routes will give you mileage to next waypoint, gas or destination, the .gmap image will not.

Here are the steps:

1. Create your routes, in Basecamp, recalculate and confirm that they are following the roads/trails you want precisely.
2. Use Basecamp to convert your pre-calculated routes to tracks. No need to filter down points, they can have as many points as you like.
3. If desired, combine your tracks into one long track, or color code each track.
4. Export your track(s) as a .GPX file.
5. Open IMGfromGPX.
6. Drag and drop the .GPX file onto the window.
7. I use Thin_NT.typ, (NT=no label on track) try none and thick as you desire.
8. Choose track color if you want them all to be the same-- very important -- default (none) actually converts some BaseCamp shades to primary colors, see IMGfromGPX documentation.
9. Name the map as you like, enter it into the "Name on PC" and "Name on device" fields.

9.5 ***IMPORTANT NOTE*** If you have already made a map with IMGfromGPX, it will have assigned the Family ID as 12345. You will need to change the default entry in this field to a different number, 12346, for example. To check ALL your maps for these kinds of errors, etc, I suggest JaVaWa GMTK.

10. Click "Create map", you will be prompted where you want to save the .gmap file.
11. Double click on the .gmap file, MapManager should invite you to install it in your maps folder, or just drag it in the folder with all your other maps.
12. Close and re-open Basecamp and confirm that your .gmap is visible.
13. Open MapInstall and plug in your GPS. You should be able to select your map overlay to be delivered to your device along with any other maps like CNNA, or Topos.
14. Once installed on your device, select it... it will appear above any other selected maps, including CNNA.

Check the IMGfromGPX help files if you're having trouble.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:44 AM   #9424
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Map Overlays

Thanks Doc.

I know that this is what you do.

Our fall trip this year will be the first time for me following tracks using the Montana.

Still having trouble giving up the 478 and routes.
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:05 AM   #9425
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Thanks Doc. This is something I have been working on.
So far I found I needed java so I got that.
Now I get a different error.
I'll post what the error is later I'm out on a ride now.
Stopped for coffee.

Thanks for the info.
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:20 AM   #9426
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John, here are some notes I wrote up when someone else asked me by PM. I refer to it myself, since I only do it a couple of times a year.
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How to make a map overlay:
A map overlay is an otherwise transparant high resolution image of your route line(s) that carries a tiny memory footprint.

Reasons to use / distribute a .gmap overlay of a long route:

A. It is always visible above any other maps on your GPS device once loaded and selected to display.
B. It is not subject to re-routing complications if you deviate from your intended route.
C. It is universally distributable to any garmin GPS device, whereas tracks have size restrictions and routes may be calculated differently on different devices.
D. You don't need any other map loaded to see it, just the basemap and you'll have a line to follow.
E. Redundancy. Why use routes too? Routes will give you mileage to next waypoint, gas or destination, the .gmap image will not.

Here are the steps:

1. Create your routes, in Basecamp, recalculate and confirm that they are following the roads/trails you want precisely.
2. Use Basecamp to convert your pre-calculated routes to tracks. No need to filter down points, they can have as many points as you like.
3. If desired, combine your tracks into one long track, or color code each track.
4. Export your track(s) as a .GPX file.
5. Open IMGfromGPX.
6. Drag and drop the .GPX file onto the window.
7. I use Thin_NT.typ, (NT=no label on track) try none and thick as you desire.
8. Choose track color if you want them all to be the same-- very important -- default (none) actually converts some BaseCamp shades to primary colors, see IMGfromGPX documentation.
9. Name the map as you like, enter it into the "Name on PC" and "Name on device" fields.

9.5 ***IMPORTANT NOTE*** If you have already made a map with IMGfromGPX, it will have assigned the Family ID as 12345. You will need to change the default entry in this field to a different number, 12346, for example. To check ALL your maps for these kinds of errors, etc, I suggest JaVaWa GMTK.

10. Click "Create map", you will be prompted where you want to save the .gmap file.
11. Double click on the .gmap file, MapManager should invite you to install it in your maps folder, or just drag it in the folder with all your other maps.
12. Close and re-open Basecamp and confirm that your .gmap is visible.
13. Open MapInstall and plug in your GPS. You should be able to select your map overlay to be delivered to your device along with any other maps like CNNA, or Topos.
14. Once installed on your device, select it... it will appear above any other selected maps, including CNNA.

Check the IMGfromGPX help files if you're having trouble.
Doc,

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Old 09-10-2013, 09:34 AM   #9427
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I have no idea what all that is. I just cut and pasted from notes I had in a msword doc. I should have converted to pain text first. Will do that when I return to my office. I encourage those who quoted it to edit their posts and delete the quote.

Sorry, my bad.

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Old 09-10-2013, 10:31 AM   #9428
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I have no idea what all that is. I just cut and pasted from notes I had in a msword doc. I should have converted to pain text first. Will do that when I return to my office. I encourage those who quoted it to edit their posts and delete the quote.

Sorry, my bad.

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Old 09-10-2013, 01:14 PM   #9429
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Hope you can help.
Ran the program (IMGfromGPX 1.9) and got this message-------An error occurred ---- "NilObjectException in module wProgress.GetMapName"

Any help would be great.

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Old 09-10-2013, 02:19 PM   #9430
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Doc.
Hope you can help.
Ran the program (IMGfromGPX 1.9) and got this message-------An error occurred ---- "NilObjectException in module wProgress.GetMapName"

Any help would be great.

Thanks
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You may achieve better results by asking the people who wrote the software
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Old 09-10-2013, 02:38 PM   #9431
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Yeah I thought about that after I posted it here.
But there's so many good experts here in this thread thought what the hell.
And it's hard to find good help these days...you know?

Will give it a try

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Old 09-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #9432
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Doc.
Hope you can help.
Ran the program (IMGfromGPX 1.9) and got this message-------An error occurred ---- "NilObjectException in module wProgress.GetMapName"

Any help would be great.

Thanks
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For Mac, I'd say upgrade to v2.0, and make sure you're naming the maps (don't leave those boxes blank). Let's take any other map overlay troubleshooting to PM or a new thread.

For PC, you're on your own.
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Old 09-10-2013, 03:39 PM   #9433
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I'm PC haven't made that move yet.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:27 AM   #9434
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OK you those who are paying attention or care.

I updated JaVaWa GMTK to version 3.2
And also IMGfromGPX to 2.0

Ran the program still got the same error but it did make the map from the gpx file.
So I good with that.

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Old 09-11-2013, 08:24 PM   #9435
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I'm having a problem with my new 650T...

I load north America City Navigator in and my Ibycus topo - ***BUT***

When I look at the maps available in my GPS, it comes up as them combined.... however.... no matter what zoom, no Topo shows.



And they were loaded at the same time but as 2 different maps with Roadtrip.

HELP !
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