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Old 05-30-2011, 05:10 PM   #91
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I finally got that manual, like you say above there are lots of things covered in the YouTube videos that are not even hinted at in the Manual. And this seems to be very typical of Garmin documentation.

BTW: it was an expired security cert that I was very reluctant to accept that kept me away from the link to the manual.
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Old 05-30-2011, 05:20 PM   #92
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Yeah, go figure, FCC gov site and the Cert has expired.
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Old 05-31-2011, 12:44 PM   #93
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Automatic Route Recalculation

I posed a question to GPS City about whether one could turn off the auto-recalculation feature. Their answer was that it did not appear that it could be turned off, but then they got a little confusing -- asking how I would use the unit and suggesting that I could just ignore the prompts. Obviously if it prompts the user before recalculating a route while navigating -- and giving the user the option of ignoring those prompts (and not-recalculating the route) -- that would not be an issue. I've asked them to clarify their answer.
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Old 05-31-2011, 04:05 PM   #94
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Just received an email from GPSCity (Jordan) - Marco you will most likely get similar.

No Recalc (Auto, Prompted, Off) options - which means that the unit will recalculate when you are off course at some point. But, he also noted that the Montana they have is a pre-release unit and the software is obviously not at production levels - do to missing pages behind options.

I think we're in a waiting game until the end of June and someone here gets their mitts on one and gives it a real shakedown for us.
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Old 05-31-2011, 05:50 PM   #95
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As of right now the Montana does not allow you to turn off and on recalculation of the route you are on. The only option in that setting is to be prompted of the calculation method you would like to use (faster time/shortest distance) when you start a new route.

We are hoping they will add this in a future update, as the firmware we have on the Montana may not be complete and when the unit starts shipping they probably will make some changes to it by then.
This is the message they sent to me.

I am like others here, just need to wait and see what the production firmware is like.
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Old 05-31-2011, 11:18 PM   #96
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Finally a dual purpose GPS!!

I'm looking at getting the 600.....I don't need the camera and I'll pick up maps later.

What's the lowest price so far for the 600?
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Old 06-02-2011, 08:33 AM   #97
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This is the first GPS I've seen that will lure me away from my trusty Oregon. I'm good with my existing unit for now, but over the winter I may have to pick up a Montana. Looks like the basic feature set is almost identical to the Oregon, but the larger, brighter screen (and seemingly much faster processor) will be nice.

I noticed in one of GPSCity's videos that the Montana has a motorcycle routing mode. I wonder what the difference is between that and the automotive routing mode.

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Old 06-02-2011, 09:04 AM   #98
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I wonder what the difference is between that and the automotive routing mode.

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It routes you down twistier roads.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:24 AM   #99
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...I noticed in one of GPSCity's videos that the Montana has a motorcycle routing mode. I wonder what the difference is between that and the automotive routing mode.

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Was it a routing mode, or just a profile? I think I saw Motorcycle as one of the choices for Profile, which presumably just puts different icons on the opening screen, or different items on the dashboard etc.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:19 PM   #100
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Unfortunately for us, Garmin is using these terms as both a Profile for calculation settings AND a calculation method.

On the GPSCity video for Routing Setup, they only show Direct Routing and it's options. I have asked them to create an Auto Routing video that will use Motorcycle as the routing method. Then we can see what options there are to this which should indicate whether Motorcycle is a method or a Profile - or both .

Even after this info we will not know what the various method's do to a route calculation. Garmin will need to tell us that and they have not been forthcoming to date.
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Old 06-02-2011, 04:41 PM   #101
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Unfortunately for us, Garmin is using these terms as both a Profile for calculation settings AND a calculation method.

On the GPSCity video for Routing Setup, they only show Direct Routing and it's options. I have asked them to create an Auto Routing video that will use Motorcycle as the routing method. Then we can see what options there are to this which should indicate whether Motorcycle is a method or a Profile - or both .

Even after this info we will not know what the various method's do to a route calculation. Garmin will need to tell us that and they have not been forthcoming to date.
One would hope that they will be consistent with the Profile options in the BaseCamp Beta which allow you to set up how you would like the route calcs to be done. That was one of the things they cleaned up.
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Old 06-03-2011, 12:30 AM   #102
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It routes you down twistier roads.
And...it routes you into traffic so you can lane split.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:16 PM   #103
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Gee all my offroading finally beat the crap out of my 60csx this past weekend. What will I get next???

I sure hope this unit can handle all the bashing around.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:47 PM   #104
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One would hope that they will be consistent with the Profile options in the BaseCamp Beta which allow you to set up how you would like the route calcs to be done. That was one of the things they cleaned up.
Profile Options are all well and good. And, having the same NAME for them between Garmin products would be. . .unique. But, what I was implying is that even if the GPS Software and BaseCamp have the same Profile Names/Activities we, as customers, do not know what to expect from these profiles+options unless Garmin development tell us what to expect when we create a Route using the available parameters. There are a number of "hidden" variables that only the algorithm developer knows and it is left up to us customers to figure out (reverse engineer as it were).

A simple paragraph on each of the Profile Activities and it's associated options describing the expected outcome would be much appreciated. But I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Old 06-15-2011, 03:37 PM   #105
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According to a Garmin representative, Montana is (among other things) aimed to be the successor for 278/478 that we all have been waiting for.

It will be highly customizable for offroad/adventure motorcycle/atv use (not like nuvi/zumo), though it will probably not have the fantastically bright and clear screen the 278/478 has since it uses a touchscreen.

All the offroad/adventure features may not be implemented on the launch in June, but there working on it.

Lets hope they do it right this time...
I agree.

There. I've said it: It looks like Garmin finally is making a GPS that I'd want to replace my 478 with.

Whew!
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