Mitas Tyres

[Sundowner]

Originally Posted by b0mb3r

how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg

I fitted the Army Special front to my Super Tenere 750 and it currently has about 4500 km on it with only about 500km max left. That was on a lot of desert roads, a bit of high speed bitumen and a few sandy tracks. They take a bit of getting used to but are a far better handling knobby than a D606. Very little squirming of the blocks, reasonable steering response on bitumen even in pouring rain, slightly odd feel on dirt at first but confidence levels quickly grow with this tyre. You can actually really lay into a sandy or rutted corner and feel the tyre bite. It's a happy enough tyre on fast sweeping bitumen at high speed as well. Feedback was good with no unexpected slides, however I did manage to lock the front over a white painted railway crossing sign in the wet while commuting recently - it locked and unlocked almost immediately (I was braking moderately hard to do a hasty U-turn on a wet road at the time, so more my fault than the tyre, although it's the first front that's ever done that to me.) I only encountered a little bit of black mud on tour but the grip was again very impressive. They self clean easily and cop a decent hammering through ruts, ledges and potholes. I actually expected a couple of punctures from hard impacts but it never happened. The only odd thing about this tyre was when mounting it, the bead never seemed to sit properly - as in the tyre sidewall popping over the edge of the rim bead - so it never looked like it was beaded properly. However it mounts quickly and easily, never rotated even a millimetre (no rim lock fitted either) and could be run at lower pressures on the big bike without any concern for it demounting. I ran it around 32 to 26 psi mainly, dropping down to 14psi in some really soft stuff. It seems happier at about 26psi on sandy gravel. There's no directionality to this tyre, so a little bit more life could be had from the tyre by turning it once moderate ramping of the knob blocks occurs, which I didn't bother with.
It probably wore quicker than I expected from a Mitas tyre, but for the money paid, I'm happy with it.

Conversely, I only managed to get about 100 kilometres out of a brand new July/2012 build dated Mitas E09 Dakar 140/80 - 17 rear before it was ruined by a puncture - the inner sidewalls destroyed themselves before I felt the tyre had gone flat. This left deep 5cm long diagonal slits in the inner sidewall that ruined this new tyre. Not real happy about that. Has the sidewall construction or rubber compound or thickness been changed to cause this? I guess it balances the brilliant mileage I got from the last one (13000 kms) I had. The previous one I managed to ride flat twice for reasonably similar distances without any obvious damage occurring.

[b0mb3r]

Thanks Sundowner just the info i was after .... was going to get a big block but they didnt have one so trying the Scorpion rally, hoping to get about 6000kms out of it

[atgreg]

Originally Posted by b0mb3r

how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg

hard to say as I swap between 2 sets of wheels nd dont really keep track, ut it seems to last a reasonable amount as Ive had a newie in the garage ready to fit for the last 6 months but havent needed too

[b0mb3r]

thanks Greg

[Hodgo]

Do Mitas make a 140/80/18

[955616846]

Originally Posted by Hodgo

Do Mitas make a 140/80/18

Yes, E-07, E-09D, not in XT-644

http://www.motorcycletyres.net.au/ty...ari/index.html

[ferals5]

Originally Posted by b0mb3r

how many k's are you getting out of the t-644 Greg

Mine has 5400km. Started at 10mm and is currently 9 and 7mm toe/heal wear. Did the first 1500 to wear the tits off the centre knobs!

Like it in sand, gravel, and dry bitumen. Some mud today also no issue, have not encountered wet bitumen yet. E07 rear is 1.5mm off the solid centre in the same distance, so maybe a 1000 left.

cheers

ferals5

I reckon the 644 will see off two E07's on the rear

[watagans300exc]

Is there an ADV discount for Mitas tyres here in Aus???

Where would be the cheapest place to pick one up?

Cheers,

Tony.

[Beemerboff]

If you dont have a local dealer the distributor used to sell direct, but I think they have dealers most places now.

Most of the mail order sellers seem to want the fitted price , with silly postage costs added too.

My local guy will supply and fit a pair ( 21/18") of E07s for $230- for my G/S, which is just about as cheap as you will get for that sort of tire, fitted or not.

Hopefully they will last a bit longer than the 4000 km I am getting from the Scorpion ATs.

[b0mb3r]

just got back from the OCR and the rear EO7 was fantastic ... still about 50% left ... did a shit load of ks on the tar as well, 6500ks in total and will stick with them for now ... very happy camper

[gsd4me]

Had a front tubeless E07 suddenly deflate south of Goondiwindi last Friday, causing me to come off the bike. I may have had a slow leak and the rough road may have caused the bead to move off the rim. I had done almost 7000Km on front and rear and were/are very happy with them. Front tyre was blown up with two co2 bottles and as far as I know it is still inflated. I prefer the E07 over the K60 Scout, which is a good tyre, but the carcass is too stiff for my liking.

[XRman]

Originally Posted by BergDonk

I'm not a fan of the E09 front either. On the front of my DR, I've used a 606, and a couple of MT21s, and now using Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front, with a new one, and a new E07 rear just fitted to head to Qld next week. The E09 front just doesn't have enough knob to bite, or something, for me. Still like the E09s up back, but a T63 does the same thing, for a lot less $ here at the moment. The Scorpion Rally front is excellent everywhere, and lasts about the same as an MT21 and doesn't need turning to even up the wear. Guess I gotta try a Army Special sometime.

Steve

I wasn't going to add my comments about the E09 front, but I have changed my mind.

I think it would be fine on fim gravel roads and tar, but keep away from soft stuff.

I had one on the front of my DRZ400 in the Little Desert and it would not steer in deep sand. I ended up in a helicopter going to Melbourne with a broken leg. I also nearly damaged my spinal cord ( severe bruising only thank God )The front end tucked under and the DRZ landed on me. So I am not a fan of this tyre on the front. Rear E09 is fine.

My assesment is that the tyre is too small in profile to float in anything soft and the knobs are too short. it just digs in and pushes in the sand (understeer).

It coud have been rider error, but I have years of sand experience, and other riders on my bike agreed it was handling poorly that day.


See

The front tyres in this photo are from the left a Starcross HP4 90/100, then the Mitas 90/90, a half worn Dunlop 606 90/90, a new Pirelli scorpion 80/100 and a worn Dunlop 742 80/100 .

The Mitas is a more rounded and smaller tyre in profile than the 606 of the same size and way smaller than the StarcrossHP4.. I have tried the HP4 in soft sand since the accident and it is superior even though it is a hard terrain tyre.

[Mitas]

First of all let me tell you that I´m really sorry that you crashed.
I´m really happy that you are here .... to tell what happened.
And if we read comment carefully ... and we should do it word by word.... there are several precious informations in your statement.


For now, I would like to keep my statement just plain ...without many further words.

When I use sometimes the CCM 400 ( same engine ,..different frame when the DRZ.. but I´m not sure what the real difference is) of of friend of mine I use Motorcross tires for the front too.

The ground here is deep sand / sump ... I´m going to 80/100 and as low pressure as possible.
A "Dualsport" ready for 190km/h and to carry the front of a fully loaded F800GS is not the right tire for this.

Regardless the brand...

[ozbikedude]

Originally Posted by Mitas

First of all let me tell you that I´m really sorry that you crashed.
I´m really happy that you are here .... to tell what happened.
And if we read comment carefully ... and we should do it word by word.... there are several precious informations in your statement.


For now, I would like to keep my statement just plain ...without many further words.

When I use sometimes the CCM 400 ( same engine ,..different frame when the DRZ.. but I´m not sure what the real difference is) of of friend of mine I use Motorcross tires for the front too.

The ground here is deep sand / sump ... I´m going to 80/100 and as low pressure as possible.
A "Dualsport" ready for 190km/h and to carry the front of a fully loaded F800GS is not the right tire for this.

Regardless the brand...

yep a E-09 front is not for you,ac-10 yes,E-07 rear cant fault them(bloody good tyre)

[Mitas]

AC-10 is made in our moulds too...

XT-914 ...
C-19 ....
C-19 Super (Enduro type of the C-19)

Any Cross / Enduro made for soft / medium ground.