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Old 07-19-2011, 12:01 PM   #1486
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The S10 is not low tech, Or lower tech compared to BMW
yeah i know. that's why the word is in quotes.
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:04 PM   #1487
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The main reason I'm not interested in the SuperTen (besides the weight) is all the high-technology bullshit they deemed we needed.

I would be very interested in one if they saved the cost, weight, and complexity of the electronics, and knocked off 20 pounds and $2,000.

I would be on line to buy one tomorrow if they made an 800cc version with no electronics for $8,999!
then it would be closer to how the strom is slotted (below) in the market & it would have a chain.
that also make it too close to their 660 tenere as this is a world bike. maybe there mid-size tenere in the works, who knows, but the S10 is a big GS nemesis.

yamaha went tooth and nail against bmw and had to do electronics they felt would 1 up bmw. the reports are they achieved that. there is no coincidence the motor is 1200cc and it has a shaft drive.
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Old 07-20-2011, 08:03 AM   #1488
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Well, I paid $6600 (+TTL) for my '08 ABS 3 years ago. My "cost of living" increase at work is usually 3%-ish. Over 3 years that bumps the '12 ABS to $7212 is what I would expect to pay.
Unfortunately, you're failing to consider the decreasing strength of the dollar against the yen over that time. In July 2008, the exchange rate was an average of 106.76 yen to the dollar. It is now at 80.38. (Actually, it's even less than that, but for the sake of consistency, I'm using the values from the same data table in the WikiPedia article linked below.)

If we look at your original $6,600, that would have been equivalent to 704,616 in July 2008. At today's exchange rate, it would cost $8,766. Applying your 3% cost of living, that bumps it up to $9,029 + TTL. Even though this is a simple back of the envelope analysis, a current MSRP of ~$9,000 doesn't really seem all that unreasonable.

Historical exchange rate info taken from WikiPedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanes..._exchange_rate)

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Old 07-22-2011, 01:27 AM   #1489
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Old 07-22-2011, 10:58 AM   #1490
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Holy crap! Traffic on this thread has dropped to almost nothing!
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:04 AM   #1491
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I am still here. Really now just waiting to see if the very few things Strom riders complain about (i.e. wind buffeting, overdrive 6th gear) are really changed. Then I'll know whether or not it will be my next purchase.
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Old 07-22-2011, 12:05 PM   #1492
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All years of DL650 have the same "overdrive 6th gear." All gear ratios are the same for the 2012 model, unfortunately.
It is hard to notice the tall 6th gearing the Suzuki marketing dept has been bragging about.
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Old 07-22-2011, 05:31 PM   #1493
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...is 1000 model coming?

BTW, here is what I noticed. The original DL650 was always advertised as 60MPG bike, and DL1000 as 40MPG... Well, the new, 2012 one has 51MPG stamp on Suzuki official site...

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Old 07-22-2011, 05:56 PM   #1494
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...is 1000 model coming?

BTW, here is what I noticed. The original DL650 was always advertised as 60MPG bike, and DL1000 as 40MPG... Well, the new, 2012 one has 51MPG stamp on Suzuki official site...

Bheeeee.....
Fuel mileage test standards changed a few years ago for car (I think in 2008 or 2009), I suspect the new ratings on bikes reflect a similar change.

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Old 07-22-2011, 07:30 PM   #1495
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Fuel mileage test standards changed a few years ago for car (I think in 2008 or 2009), I suspect the new ratings on bikes reflect a similar change.

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It does not matter how you call a gallon, but I want my gallon milk jug be the same size?
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Old 07-22-2011, 08:32 PM   #1496
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It does not matter how you call a gallon, but I want my gallon milk jug be the same size?
You might be misunderstanding.. the way fuel mileage ratings are calculated since 2008 (or 2009) gives a lower fuel mileage rating on the same vehicle. If something got 60 mpg previously the new rating system might give 45 mpg (not sure of the actual difference but it is significant.)

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Old 07-23-2011, 06:23 AM   #1497
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You might be misunderstanding.. the way fuel mileage ratings are caluclated since 2008 (or 2009) gives a lower fuel mileage rating on the same vehicle. If something got 60 mpg previously the new rating system might give 45 mph (not sure of the actual difference but it is significant.)

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I don't think he is talking about GAS
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Old 07-23-2011, 06:26 AM   #1498
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I don't think he is talking about GAS
I thought he was talking about milk.

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Old 07-23-2011, 07:26 AM   #1499
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I can only post holy shit I want one in so many ways
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