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Old 06-06-2011, 11:38 PM   #16
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Compared to a Monster?
Nope, no comparison, they were just talking about their pillions opinions. They do make a "touring seat" for it, though I haven't actually seen it on the bike, so don't know how different it is.

We would like a "cruiser" type bike, but having only ridden dirt and sport bikes my whole life, I can't get past the forward footpegs; one of the reasons I like the Diavel, since it's pegs are straight down.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:22 PM   #17
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I think you will really like the thunderbird. I haven't ridden the storm but I did ride the 1700CC version before the thunderbird came out. Lots of smiles per mile.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:28 PM   #18
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Moto Guzzi 1200 Sport

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Old 06-09-2011, 11:29 PM   #19
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That Guzzi doesn't look like my pillion would like it much...

And I already said I'm not considering German or Japanese soulless sewing machines...

But, thanks for playing!
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:21 AM   #20
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That Guzzi doesn't look like my pillion would like it much...

And I already said I'm not considering German or Japanese soulless sewing machines...

But, thanks for playing!
Is that some marine thing against the nazis and japs that evolved into their vehicles?
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:08 AM   #21
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That Guzzi doesn't look like my pillion would like it much...

And I already said I'm not considering German or Japanese soulless sewing machines...

But, thanks for playing!
The Guzzi 1200 Sport is the same bike (sans fairing) as the Norge touring bike.

Lots of people put lots of (comfortable) miles on them...

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Old 06-10-2011, 12:11 PM   #22
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I have a Norge and we ride 2 up

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Old 06-11-2011, 08:23 AM   #23
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Laugh

And I already said I'm not considering German or Japanese soulless sewing machines...

But, thanks for playing![/QUOTE]

So i`m guessing that your weekend trips will be just to the next township, with the bikes you picked ?? If you do travel to other states & god forbid you have a break down (never wish that on anyone) you better hope there is a dealer close by. I won`t own a BMW either , only because of little dealer network in the good old USA. You are right about jap bikes having no soul, BUT dealer network is huge, & that is why i chose my ride. (besides it`ll run all day, solo-or 2 up & handle twisties also)
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Old 06-11-2011, 11:40 AM   #24
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And I already said I'm not considering German or Japanese soulless sewing machines...
No bike has "soul". They are machines. As of yet, there is no machine known that actually has "soul". If you define "soul" as "falls apart on every second corner" or "shakes and vibrates the tooth inlays out" or "needs service and baby whale fat for bearing treatment", you can point that out ...

It's just BS to say "German and Japanese bikes have no soul" just because they generally work as advertised.

If you want something with style, get a Vespa ...
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Old 06-11-2011, 05:37 PM   #25
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Not to dogpile on you, but have you ever ridden any of the modern BMW R-bikes at all? What about Moto Guzzis? Harleys? The big H-D tourers can be great pillion bikes.

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I forgot to mention; I'm not a fan of Japanese (anymore) or German bikes (as you may have guessed from my list), as I don't feel they have any soul... More like sewing machines...
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Old 06-11-2011, 05:55 PM   #26
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No bike has "soul". They are machines. As of yet, there is no machine known that actually has "soul". If you define "soul" as "falls apart on every second corner" or "shakes and vibrates the tooth inlays out" or "needs service and baby whale fat for bearing treatment", you can point that out ...

It's just BS to say "German and Japanese bikes have no soul" just because they generally work as advertised.

If you want something with style, get a Vespa ...
I never liked the saying either. I like to think of it as "a bike that speaks to my soul". It is gonna be different for everyone.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:01 PM   #27
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I actually heard there IS a new bike coming down the pike that does have a soul. No pics yet, but all the moto rags are talking about the new SKYNET T-1200. Some joint venture with Erik Buell, Kyle Reese, and John Connor and funded by Cyberdyne Systems.
























To the OP, I have no problem with you not wanting German or Japanese bikes. But you may want to drop by Morton's since your local as they usually have a decent supply used bikes, sometimes the occasional Italian or English one. Doubt they have a BMW R1200R though since apparently I'm the only one who likes it.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:24 PM   #28
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KTM 990 SMT or SMR if you want the more sporty flavor. I love my 950. I'd probably like the 990 with FI even more. It is my first KTM but will definitely not be the last. Don't leave this out of the mix if you are considering the Multi or Tiger both of which are excellent choices as well. That Diavel is really much better in the flesh and from what I hear it is pretty amazing.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:02 PM   #29
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I forgot to mention; I'm not a fan of Japanese (anymore) or German bikes (as you may have guessed from my list), as I don't feel they have any soul... More like sewing machines...

Too bad you feel that way... takes a lot of great bikes out of the equation. As a passenger hauler, Goldwings can't be beat (my biased opinion) - ever drive one? Don't knock what you've never tried - GL1500s & 1800s really scoot, and for such heavy, long wheelbase bikes, they don't actually handle bad either (and I'm a former sport bike rider). Let your wife sit on the back of one and she'll be sold - my wife was!
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Old 06-12-2011, 12:14 AM   #30
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We have looked at the Connie, but if I was gonna go with a straight ST, I'd go with the Sprint; more character.
Triumph is a very nice bike but...not on the same league as a C14 unless ...you have short trips in your horizons.
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