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Old 06-08-2014, 06:05 AM   #241
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Actually, the name Cube was introduced in late 2008 for the 300 model.
If your 250 is also called a Cube, it's a USA only thing. Here in EU when
you say Cube, it's a 300, but I could be wrong on this (re: USA only).



Um yeah, I think you got both wrong.

The power difference is actually 22hp vs 22.4hp or 22.5hp, depending on
where you look.

More importantly, the 300 reaches the maximum power at
7500 revs, while the 250 peaked at 8250 revs.

Torque went from 20,2Nm to 23.8Nm, which is (in your money) around
2,5 ft/lb more, or almost 20%. That's not something to ignore.

Again, more importantly, the 300 reaches maximum torque at 5750 revs
and the 250 did it at 6500 revs, if I haven't mixed the numbers up.

Less revs = less fuel, less wear, less noise (all other things being equal).

I used to recite these numbers daily when the new 300 came out so I
knew them by heart a lot of years ago (work related).

Most scoots using these 2 engines had different CVT setups between the
two though so it's hard to compare the engine difference alone, but it's
there, and is probably the best Piaggio's engine (the 300 (278)) reliability
wise.

EDIT: Check out the Derbi Rambla 250 and 300, a repackaged Sportcity
(which is again almost the same as the Piaggio Carnaby) - that thing
(the Rambla) had the most aggressive CVT setup out of all of them and
hit 60mph with me on board in 11 seconds (like my 6hp more powerful
Downtown 300) and would hit 85mph on GPS.

The only thing that came close is another scoot most never saw, the Piaggio X7
300 (re: acceleration in stock form).
According to the specs I have seen on U.S. models, I am correct. European models may be different or maybe the specs are incorrect but that is what was published.. My sport city 250 says cube on it.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:16 AM   #242
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According to the specs I have seen on U.S. models, I am correct. European models may be different.
Actually, it's probably down to the legislation stuff over there, same as my
scooter is rated as 28hp here, 30hp in Spain and 32.7hp in Taiwan and
called Downtown, SuperDink and Nikitta while actually being the same
everywhere.

It's simpler to make it seem like they're the same so they don't have to
go over the stuff they do go over before they can import a new product.

I'm sure Piaggio does not make more then one version of their 250 or 300
engine since it wouldn't make sense $$$-wise, and Piaggio USA for sure
does not mess around with the engine on the scooters they import.

This is from the Piaggio brochure:


The curves show why they made the 300:


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My sport city 250 says cube on it.
It was a $30 sticker back in 2008 and very well stocked at local dealers at the time.


Yeah, I found cube and non-cube 250 after a quick google.
Anywhu, I wish I had one for around town and short rides, it's an amazing scooter.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:30 AM   #243
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like that:

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If you have a photobucket account, copy and paste the webpage from your browser and we can post the pics for you.

The Cube! That is the one I have seen listed in the states.
http://s914.photobucket.com/
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:31 AM   #244
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That opens the Photobucket start page for me.
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:43 AM   #245
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Thanks for the help

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That opens the Photobucket start page for me.
After more than a hour, at a time, i stop. I paste or copued and its always a message of rong url or bla,bla,bla. I will send you a email if some one can post it for me.

One thing come to me very clear, when you first ride theAprilia Sport city cube (250 or 300) Its the stability. The chassis and the big weels make it easy to ride. Scooters are so fun!
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Old 06-08-2014, 06:49 AM   #246
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After more than a hour, at a time, i stop. I paste or copued and its always a message of rong url or bla,bla,bla. I will send you a email if some one can post it for me.
I sent you a PM with my email.
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Here's PascalM3M5's Sportcity:


From his photobucket:
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:07 AM   #248
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YES! Thanks

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Here's PascalM3M5's Sportcity:
I will read the post you send me for the photo. Again thank you.
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Old 06-08-2014, 07:16 AM   #249
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I will read the post you send me for the photo. Again thank you.
No problem.

I sent you a small guide (email), and added another photo above
from your photobucket.
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Anywhu, I wish I had one for around town and short rides, it's an amazing scooter.
For around town I prefer my Super 8 150. I use my Sport City for longer rides, trips or for riding with guys on their 1000cc+ motorcycles. I did a 370 mile ride last weekend. Next smallest bike on the ride was an ST1300.

Did a 230 mile ride on it yesterday. Most of the bikes on the ride where over 1000cc.
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Old 06-08-2014, 03:52 PM   #251
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For around town I prefer my Super 8 150. I use my Sport City for longer rides, trips or for riding with guys on their 1000cc+ motorcycles. I did a 370 mile ride last weekend. Next smallest bike on the ride was an ST1300.

Did a 230 mile ride on it yesterday. Most of the bikes on the ride where over 1000cc.
Yeah, I've seen your reviews and ride reports.

I find the Super8 too stiff for our city streets and SC is better suited for
a passenger which I ride often with. Besides, I've worked for Kymco past
two years and owned 2 of them in the last 4 years, I'm ready to try something
else.
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Yes people are surprise!

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For around town I prefer my Super 8 150. I use my Sport City for longer rides, trips or for riding with guys on their 1000cc+ motorcycles. I did a 370 mile ride last weekend. Next smallest bike on the ride was an ST1300.

Did a 230 mile ride on it yesterday. Most of the bikes on the ride where over 1000cc.
People dont expect this kind of sportiness from a small scooter. Surprise, surprise!
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Old 06-09-2014, 03:54 AM   #253
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People dont expect this kind of sportiness from a small scooter. Surprise, surprise!
I wouldn't expect sportiness from a BIG scooter.
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Old 06-16-2014, 10:18 PM   #254
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FWIW, after leaving Hyder, Alaska Tuesday June 2 I've put 4,000 sometimes very fast (rev limiter kicked in more times than I could count) on our 2008 Sports City in the 2014 Scooter Cannonball. Total maintenance required - adding 2lbs of air to my tires. Okay, I did pretty much wear out the rear Hindendau K66 tire on the rear but the tires performed flawlessly in the sleet and snow of Rabbit Ears Pass and the various stretches of dirt in Canada, Montana and Colorado. All in all the Sports City was an excellent choice going from sea level over mountain passes ranging from 6,500' to 11,500' and back to sea level again with rain, sleet, snow and high winds (Eastern Colorado & Kansas 50mph cross winds) and if I were to do it over again I'd take the Sports City again.
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Old 06-17-2014, 04:25 AM   #255
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Cheryl- glad it worked flawlessly for you! Enjoyed seeing all the picture everyposted and tracking everybodies progress. What an experience. The Sport City served you well!
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