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Old 07-29-2011, 05:21 PM   #136
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When Talent Out-Weighs Horse Power

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Guys do you think its fair chance 990SMR vs Multi 1200? similar riding styles & skill of both riders...

If not what would it take ? (Exhaust,Moto,Hooligan ) ? or more ?


Buddy just got one "Multi"... I already know where this is going... (Most Riding is in tight stuff...)
Well if you could clone yourself, and one of you was on an SMR and the other a Multi? Lets see, the stock SMR is about 100 at the wheel (give or take) and the Multi is ball park 140!! at the wheel, I guess I wouldn't want to be you, on the KTM.

But hey, fully tricked you can get close to, or at, a buck twenty at the wheel on your SMR, the other 20+ HP you will have to make up for in talent. (I just hope your buddy doesn't mod his Multi "Yikes") he could exceed 150 at the wheel and to make up 25-30 HP it would help to be a gifted rider.

Remember the Multi cost a heck of a lot more, so you get what ya pay for.

This argument will go on for ever (and no where)... obviously the handling traits of each machine could be the great equalizer here, and I've never ridden the Multi, so I couldn't say either way for certain. Maybe its a pig to throw around in the tight stuff who knows.

Might be easier to get a new riding buddy.
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Old 07-29-2011, 10:05 PM   #137
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Guys do you think its fair chance 990SMR vs Multi 1200? similar riding styles & skill of both riders...

If not what would it take ? (Exhaust,Moto,Hooligan ) ? or more ?


Buddy just got one "Multi"... I already know where this is going... (Most Riding is in tight stuff...)


I just bought a KTM smr and decided to bring it into some tighter twisty roads than I have near me so I packed up and headed to North Carolina where I got to ride with KTM Mike who also owns an smr. I spent the first day following him on some of the best roads you can find for this bike and when it got tight I got to see what a skilled rider like Mike can do. The next day he ride his KTM 690 and even with less horsepower he was quicker...especially when we met up with Jaimie James on his Yamaha R1 I got to see what talented riders can do So my experience is that a more skilled rider will be faster on anything and the extra horsepower of the Multi would only matter in a long straightaway which I have yet to find while riding down here. I have ridden the new multi and I believe I would be quicker on the KTM on everything except a straightaway. Both are excellent bikes and as long as everyone is smiling at the end of the ride it really doesn't matter who is faster.

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Old 07-30-2011, 09:44 PM   #138
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Jamie James... Damn

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especially when we met up with Jaimie James on his Yamaha R1 I got to see what talented riders can do.

Both are excellent bikes and as long as everyone is smiling at the end of the ride it really doesn't matter who is faster.
Most important... who's friends with Jamie James? KTM Mike? How awesome is that, you got to ride with him. He's a legend, what a great opportunity. Very cool. Spent many a years cheering him on track side.

And as the title of my post said, there is no substitute for talent. I think your last quote sums it up nicely, well put.

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Old 07-31-2011, 04:22 AM   #139
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Laugh Jamie James

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Most important... who's friends with Jamie James? KTM Mike? How awesome is that, you got to ride with him. He's a legend, what a great opportunity. Very cool. Spent many a years cheering him on track side.

And as the title of my post said, there is no substitute for talent. I think your last quote sums it up nicely, well put.

cheers

Yeah, Jamie lives right over the mountain from me.
I've been riding with him for years, and I work with him from time to time when he needs help.
I too was cheering him on trackside at Daytona many years before we were neighbors.
Now I chase him for hours down our local twisty roads.
We live among some of the best twisty roads in the whole country.
He's very busy building racebikes at his shop next to his house, so he doesn't get to ride as much as I do, and I still show him a new road every now and then.
(Jamie let me ride the Craw-Daddy BEFORE it was on the cover of Cycle World . . . FAST!)

George (TAZ1200) came all the way down from NY and rode with us this week on his 990SM-R,
and he will be posting pictures on this thread soon.

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Old 07-31-2011, 04:58 AM   #140
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George it was good to see you, if just for a minute. The next time the new will be off an maybe we can do some gravel, I already know I can't keep up on pavement.
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Guys do you think its fair chance 990SMR vs Multi 1200? similar riding styles & skill of both riders...

If not what would it take ? (Exhaust,Moto,Hooligan ) ? or more ?


Buddy just got one "Multi"... I already know where this is going... (Most Riding is in tight stuff...)
I guess the term "tight stuff" is relative.
If you are talking about "tight stuff" like here in Southern Appalachia,
then you don't need anywhere near 999cc or 1198cc to go your fastest.
Riding the 990 SM-R here is an exercise in restraint.




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Old 07-31-2011, 07:22 AM   #142
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George it was good to see you, if just for a minute. The next time the new will be off an maybe we can do some gravel, I already know I can't keep up on pavement.

Hi Shane,
Take it easy at the Asheville Drunkfest,
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Old 07-31-2011, 08:34 AM   #143
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Very Cool

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Yeah, Jamie lives right over the mountain from me. I've been riding with him for years.

George (TAZ1200) came all the way down from NY and rode with us this week on his 990SM-R,
and he will be posting pictures on this thread soon.

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Hey Mike

Great stuff about Jamie, thats just awesome. I'm originally from back East and I have great memories of him from Loudon, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta. I have quite a few T's with him on em too! I also remember that Cycle World R1 issue, which was interesting cuz I always wondered what he was up to since he left racing.

Thumbs up to George for trekin all that way to ride with you guys, cant wait to see his pictures.

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Old 07-31-2011, 08:47 AM   #144
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Question

Does any one know of a good cleaner for Carbon Fiber parts? I noticed some CF parts seem to have a clear coat on them and some don't. The cleared parts are easy to clean of course, but I'm having a hard time with CF parts with no clear on them. Some of the cleaners I've tried have made the parts look oxidized (white blotches, kinda like hard water spots). Now I'm afraid to apply anything.

Anyone know the trick?
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Hey Mike

Great stuff about Jamie, thats just awesome. I'm originally from back East and I have great memories of him from Loudon, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta. I have quite a few T's with him on em too! I also remember that Cycle World R1 issue, which was interesting cuz I always wondered what he was up to since he left racing.
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Well he owned a Cajun Restaurant here for a while, and raced cars as well.
But then he got out of the restaurant business and car racing and started building the
racebikes and the Series 1 & 2 JJP Yamaha R1's.
Series 1 was Black and Grey . . . Series 2 was boiled-crawdad-orange.
He still has one of each there at the shop.
He also built a screamin'ass canary yellow RZ 2 stroke that ended up in some magazine too.
His shop is always full of customers' racebikes.




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AMA Superbike Champion
AMA 750 Supersport Champion
AMA 600 Supersport Champion
AMA Pro Twins Champion
Suzuki Cup Series 600 &1100 Champion






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Hey Mike

Great stuff about Jamie, thats just awesome. I'm originally from back East and I have great memories of him from Loudon, Mid-Ohio and Road Atlanta. I have quite a few T's with him on em too! I also remember that Cycle World R1 issue, which was interesting cuz I always wondered what he was up to since he left racing.

Thumbs up to George for trekin all that way to ride with you guys, cant wait to see his pictures.

Tomoto

I drove my pickup truck with the KTM in it for 1500 miles in order to to ride it about 600 miles of twisty roads being led by KTM Mike for 3 days and a ride with Jaimie James, when asked if it was worth it ....ABSOLUTELY!
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