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Old 11-15-2014, 10:29 PM   #1
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New Respect for Dirt

Sooooo.... I have no dirt riding experience.... at all.

THAT being said, I had a great idea!!!
"I'll go off road the 1200 today after work!!! Woohoo!"



Some of you guys are nuts for taking these where you do

It really was a LOT of fun today, and I definitely want to return.
Buuuuut after RawHide...
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Old 11-15-2014, 11:22 PM   #2
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The bug has now hit you Sand sucks no matter what. Need momentum and good tires.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:28 AM   #3
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Remember ,especially off road, there are only three kinds of riders. Those who will crash, those who have crashed, and those who will crash again. I am in the last category. Just have fun. Richard.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:35 AM   #4
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If you like dirt, and have the bug, get a proper dirt bike - its 10x more fun than wrestling a fat lady GS around off-road. Light is Right off-road, and when you dump 'em, hundred dollar plastic bits don't fly off and shatter like they do on a street bike (make no mistake, the GS is a street bike that can be pushed into duty off-road).

This is my next purchase. 230 lb if high-tech fun. Sucks at going down the Interstate, though. Should have one shortly. KTM 350 EXC, fully street legal.

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Old 11-16-2014, 06:37 AM   #5
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more throttle and use the front wheel like a rudder.

I hate sand. My sone hates sand too. People who like sand are shifty eyed and smell bad.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:42 AM   #6
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Now imagine all that being wet full of water and mud - makes things 10x more difficult when there isn't hard packed underneath. Great job taking it off the tarmac! Keep it up!
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:12 AM   #7
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A little practice along with some good instruction and riding the GS off-road will become easier and easier, a good set of knobs will help immensely in the soft stuff too.
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:31 AM   #8
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Where was the video filmed? Looks fun!
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:32 AM   #9
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Thanks all!
Yes, I bought a pair of Anekee 3's for my road trip, since I just mostly commute. 50/50's would be MUCH better for this route.
I had wanted to do the fire road on the back side of Mt. Lemmon here in Tucson, but I think I'll hold off a bit. It's not as technical as this was, but about 10 times the length.

Through out the past few years I've watched some Off Road Fanatic and a bunch of vloggers talk about dirt riding tips, but I reached my limit with that trail.
All in all, it was great and you're right... I'm hooked AZ BDR is coming.... but once I'm able to tackle it

Oh, does anyone know much about MSF's dirt bike school? It's cheaper than RawHide, and they start on dirt bikes (Honda's around here) I think it would be a much better foundational class prior to the BMW course, but I just haven't heard much of it.
Thanks for the help, and encouragement!
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Old 11-16-2014, 07:45 AM   #10
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Happens to be on my way home from work!

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Where was the video filmed? Looks fun!
Its a little off shoot of a ranch road, in Catalina, AZ. It ends up snaking all through the Tortalita Mountains, but the section I took went a few miles in and came out in a retirement community.

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Old 11-16-2014, 09:15 AM   #11
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man, you've never seen a sand before? On sand you have to know how to ride and have proper tyres.

riding in sand is the best fun you can get out of the bike, the next one is riding under water.
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:03 AM   #12
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Sand IS tricky. Practice, weight back, momentum, being able to accelerate for most of the run through the soft stuff all help; nothing I have found makes it "easy". On all but the lightest of bikes or a TW200 sand is hard...

Great vid, looked very fun

MSF and Rawhyde would both be great. I didn't even know MSF offered dirt bike school. I am going to have to look into that.
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Old 11-16-2014, 10:09 AM   #13
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Funny video, and you're brave for posting! It gets much easier with experience - keep at it and enjoy.
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Old 11-16-2014, 11:21 AM   #14
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Remember ,especially off road, there are only three kinds of riders. Those who will crash, those who have crashed, and those who will crash again. I am in the last category. Just have fun. Richard.
You forgot the small, but still significant, type of rider: Those who are currently crashing.

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Old 11-16-2014, 11:23 AM   #15
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You have to remember that for some of us the dirt is where we grew up. I started riding bikes in the dirt at age 5. I grew up in the woods behind my house on a variety of dirt bikes. It made me the rider I am today. I feel more natural in the loose stuff than on the pavement. That said I have used my dirt skills on the road when things got ugly and I know it has saved my bacon many times.

Sand - keep up your speed, and get some knobbies, you sink in you are toast.

Keep the front end light. Probably the hardest thing for pavement riders making the transition is learning to keep your weight back and let the front end sort of hang loose. If the front tire goes into a ditch pull it out, but do not try any steering inputs until you do. It will become natural the more you do it.
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