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Old 12-21-2011, 09:51 AM   #481
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I took an offramp onto a left turn left only lane that has a red light. I stop BEHIND a car off to the left. this allows me an escape in case someone behind me wants to make me the meat in a car sandwich.

lady in front rolls down her window and sticks her head out. I thought she would ask for directions or ?

she told me she was going to turn left ....I said I know because it's a left turn only lane.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:23 AM   #482
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One thing that gets me almost every evening going home is a line of cars backed up at my exit from the interstate, because there's always some asshat stopped at the top of the ramp that doesn't understand that this



is not the same as this



I want to stand there and hand out flyers explaining the difference
Both of which are not the same as this



I hate people who stop at the end of a on-ramp when they should be merging.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:42 PM   #483
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Edinburgh in 1967 , stopped at a red light on *snip* until I showed them that ten pound note !
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This story reminds me of a similar incident a buddy of mine had back in highschool. Riding to school one morning on his trusty Suzuki GS450, and at every stop light there was a guy in one of those black "Smokey and the Bandit" Trans-Am's right behind him.

The guy in the car was pretty well known in our school, had a repuation as a spoiled rich kid. He had one of the cheerleaders in the passenger seat, and apparently was really doing his best to chat her up. As a result, he was paying far too much attention to her and not enough attention to the fact he kept inching up behind my buddy's bike.

My buddy said for the next three stop lights, T/A boy kept inching up, getting closer and closer while looking and talking to the girl. My buddy said he actually had to roll his bike up at one light to prevent this clown from bumping into him...and then he got an idea!

At the next light, he stopped, T/A boy rumbles up behind him and starts with the inching up, all the while looking at and chatting with the girl. My buddy is watching closely, both feet firmly on the ground...wait's until the front bumper is very close...waits for the next little inch up...and rolls his bike back hard, right into the bumper of the car!

Now T/A boy is all attention, his eyes wide and mouth open in surprise, realizing he just "rear-ended" a motorcycle. My buddy sort of let the bike "fall", laying it down on the ground and stepping off of it, turns and gives the guy a wide-armed "WTF?!" gesture. T/A boy is out of his car, all apologies and sorry's. My buddy makes a big deal of picking up his bike, checking for damage. He mentions cops and insurance, and T/A boy reaches into his pocket, pulls out all his cash and shoves it at my buddy, insisting there's no need to call the cops. He says it's his dad's car and he'll get in big trouble and can they just call it even, please?!

My buddy "grudingly" takes the offered cash and agrees, then jumps on his bike and rides on to school, laughing all the way.

When he told us the story we thought he was just full of crap...until he whipped out the cash. Must have been about $60 or so dollars there.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:46 PM   #484
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Daily, as in 'every damn day', I have:
-2 bicyclists (going my direction) who do the most unpredictable stuff. Watched one of them turn across in front of a cage once and nearly get flattened. A week later, same bicyclist did the same thing. The guy lasted about 8mos before somebody finally hit him. Other bicyclist is not nearly as bad but has had a lot of close calls. I am waiting for him to get taken out. Cyclist #1-had no lights or reflective anything. Cyclist #2 has great reflective stuff on the back with nothing up front. Likes to pass traffic on the right along the curb. Has nearly been taken out by cages turning right-on-red as he blows thru the light. I give the guy a year to get himself killed. 3 bicyclists going the opposite way have yet to give me any trouble. I wave to them all the time. The guy with the bestbike and gear seems oblivious to everything. One guy waves back about half the time. 3rd guy is alert and likes to wave and smile. 3rd guy has no lights/reflctivity and wears dark stuff. He will survive. Idiot with gear proves that gear is largely his saving grace. God knows he is dead asleep as he trolls his curb.
-1 pedestrian who likes to walk in the street. Traffic approaches and he steps onto the sidewalk while waiting for the street to clear so that he can continue to walk in it. Been doing it for years. Truely the most reliably WTF pedestrian that I have ever seen. ( Likes to wear dark clothes with no reflective stuff. Nearly impossible to see if you aren't expecting him.)
-2 mile stretch where there are enough police radar speed traps to microwave my coffee to a boil.
-Several cagers delivering suburban newspapers. These cagers leave their 4-ways on and drift thru stop signs, stop lights, et al. While generally pretty attentive, they screw up enough that they cannot be trusted to do anything right.
-Variety of dog walkers: One little old lady got yanked off her feet by her 15lb mutt hitting the end of the leash. If she sees me coming, she gets ready for the hit. Got a well lit/reflector, pretty woman jogger with a big dog on lead. The dog is good. But she worries enough about the dog that she has done 2 faceplants on the sidewalk tripping over the un-even slab. One was so good/hard that I stopped and went back to see if she was going to get up. She was ok.

Because I am so exact in my commute, I often see the same crazies/cagers every day. I know who speeds with radar protection. I know whyo can't be counted on to be in their proper lane for a turn and need to dive left/right to make their route. The dang bus drivers know me and wave.

Bus driver pulls into the LT lane and along side me in the thru lane while we wait out a red light. Voice of God says, "Where is your helmet?" (I ride sans helmet every chance I get. Don't start on me. FYYFFs.) I am looking around for a cop or something and don't see shit. Again the VOG gives me crap. I sneak a peek at the bus driver who is waving his mic at me. We exchanged some fun vocab. Shoot, I didn't know buses might have a PA on them?!

There is a bus lot right before the 4 best turns (esses) on my inbound route that drop me under a set of RR tracks and back up to grade again. The same bus drivers that know me never ever seem to wait for me to go past at speed for those turns. I may be the only vehicle coming and they will pull out blocking all four lanes (40 feet of bus) and screw up all the possible fun of my commute. One of those guys (now retired) rode a Wing to work all the time. I told him to pass the word to let me have my fun. Apparently, the word was not heeded if delivered?

Several commuter train stations along route make me very careful anytime a train is near. The cagers heading late for their train do the stoopidest stuff. Variety of cagers with no one 'always' late.
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Old 12-21-2011, 03:06 PM   #485
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I had some cranky old codger yell at me for riding my mountain bike on the sidewalk of a busy 2 lane. "What's wrong with the street?" He yelled as I rode by.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:36 PM   #486
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Likes to pass traffic on the right along the curb. Has nearly been taken out by cages turning right-on-red as he blows thru the light.
according to many here, he isn't doing anything wrong and, if he t-bones one of those cars as it is turning right on red, it will be the car's fault.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:46 PM   #487
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according to many here, he isn't doing anything wrong and, if he t-bones one of those cars as it is turning right on red, it will be the car's fault.
That's why I don't give them room to come up next to me. I hug the curb if I'm turning right. Fuck 'em. They want to be treated like traffic, they can wait their turn, same as I hafta.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:59 PM   #488
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That's why I don't give them room to come up next to me. I hug the curb if I'm turning right. Fuck 'em. They want to be treated like traffic, they can wait their turn, same as I hafta.
Say cagers about lane splitters.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:02 PM   #489
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Say cagers about lane splitters.
Basically, yeah.

While I can see moving thru traffic on a bicycle I do not condone blowing lights and generally riding contrary to the laws of the land. IOW go the same direction as traffic. Stay off the #$%#$ sidewalks. Obey traffic signals. Etc.

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Old 12-21-2011, 06:04 PM   #490
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That's why I don't give them room to come up next to me. I hug the curb if I'm turning right. Fuck 'em. They want to be treated like traffic, they can wait their turn, same as I hafta.
On a bicycle, if I see that, I just go down the middle (like a MC filtering) till I get past it. Then I'll get back to the right and continue along.

'Course, I don't ride in an urban environment much either.

Let MCs and bicycles do what they do. Stop playing enforcer. All of us will be better off for it.

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Old 12-21-2011, 06:07 PM   #491
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Say cagers about lane splitters.
That's not lane splitting. It's a safety measure. Keeps them from being hit when I make my right turn. It also keeps 'em from running a red light. Bicyclists want to be treated like motor vehicles going down the street, then they want to be treated like pedestrians at intersections.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:48 PM   #492
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That's why I don't give them room to come up next to me. I hug the curb if I'm turning right. Fuck 'em. They want to be treated like traffic, they can wait their turn, same as I hafta.
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That's not lane splitting. It's a safety measure. Keeps them from being hit when I make my right turn. It also keeps 'em from running a red light. Bicyclists want to be treated like motor vehicles going down the street, then they want to be treated like pedestrians at intersections.
That's not about trying to get somewhere, that's just being stupid. If I'm going straight, I don't split between potential right-turners and the curb--one of them is going to turn right and hook me. No one does it, but Californa law actually requires vehicle operators turning right (or left off a one-way) to move "as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway" (22100 VC), including "driv[ing] the motor vehicle into the bicycle lane prior to making the turn" (21717 VC). The bike lane marking goes to dots before the intersection as a friendly reminder to turning vehicles. I would bet other states have similar laws, similarly ignored.

A lot of our lanes are wide enough that a cage can slip by another cage to turn right; turning right out of the center of a lane like that is illegal. My challenge is predicting who's going to turn right from the middle of the lane without signalling while I slide by to make my right.

It takes a special kind of stupid to try to slip past someone signalling a right turn on the right. Wanna get hit AND get a ticket? Plenty do it anyway when cars don't move over far enough.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:21 AM   #493
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Rode my bike to moms house yesterday and that entails me getting on the highway and running down 3 or 4 exits...

TBT, I run about as fast as the bike will go which is around 90 indicated. That way if I have to throttle-off I have reserve power to get right back up to speed, and it lets me climb low grades in the highway in my peek RPM.

Sometimes, and especially here lately I've gotten TREMENDOUS luck with using my left signal to let left-laners know I want them to yield and let me overtake.

Tho mostly in the GFs Malibu, which can resemble a cop car.

So I'm going right along, a few cars yield and I'm almost there. I look up and there's a green VW cruising at the posted speed limit.

He sees me and in one slightly grade/hilly section floors it and smokes me as I roll-on and wait to get back up to speed.

I hang back and when the situation presents itself I pass a car or two on the right (finger wag no-no) and eventually get back into the left as I overtake the car that's holding Mr. VW up.

As I get closer to my exit I start getting over, and I get off.

Having already classified Mr. VW as a non-threat I move on to more pressing things like the light that's fooked up where I have to turn.

Not wanting to get rear-ended by off ramp traffic and b/c the lights sensor is completely out of the lane I split one car, wait for traffic and I go. But just prior-to looking back to check my 6 I see a green VW coming in hot.

I'm around the car at the fooked up light at this point. Traffic clears the same time the light changes and I take off.


I get to my moms house and park on the sidewalk in the front yard and take my helmet off... Then I see Mr. VW coming down a side road...

He crosses and looking over his shoulder and on his phone he's checking me out.

I step off the porch as he drives by and folow him in my sight as he drives off... He sees me and turn around.


"Is there a problem?"

""Yeah, you blowing past me at 100 on that thing as I'm doing 90 on the highway".

Oh boy.... Here we go.

Me: "Well I guess the safe thing I should do is just run down the left lane at the speed limit like you do, huh?"

He starts mumbling and I snap.

"Hey you jackass! My bike's a 250. It's a dritbike and won't even do over 90"

He starts name calling, calls me a fagot and drives off. The whole time me not thinking to get a license number.

I move my bike away from the street and go in, and try to shrug the altercation off...

All in all tho, having to deal with this kind of shit on a daily basis I can say it's gotten 95% better since I took my plastics off.

Me thinks next time I'll call 911 myself and report a stalker

I used to get in some kind of argument, or "you're going too fast" or "thanks for stopping, I know you could have ran" on a daily basis back when I had my full plastics on...

Yesterday, AFTER this, I'm riding in DT traffic and come up on a SUV with its left signal on. I see it can safely move over, so I stay at my present speed and course. The SUV sees me and not knowing if I'm gonna pass on the left sticks (sorta in both lanes) to the lane and I get an ear of horn as I go by on the right...


Gee what a great world we live in. So nice and considerate to our fellow man...
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:23 AM   #494
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If you're frequently "exchanging words" with other road users, consider the only common factor!

The only time I can recall any such interactions with others was an old man visiting my neighbor. He parked his beat up camper van at the side of my (private) gravel driveway and after I rode past on my way back to the house, he walked up to my garage and complained about how fast I rode. "You could have kicked up gravel and broken a window" says he. At first I thought he was joking and just wanted to talk bikes - when it became obvious he was serious I just told him the solution was to take himself and his piece of shit van off my property. End of story.
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:34 AM   #495
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what? That I ride a lot and am forced to interact with the all-knowing populace?

The common factor is morons that think I'm on a Gixxer...

I came up behind a lady stopped with her signal on wanting to turn left into a parking garage.

As I approached, she stayed right there in her lane despite NO on coming traffic.

I went round the right of her on a section no wider than a goat path, stopped and was like WTF?

She said I was coming up on her too fast and she didnt know what I was gonna do...

Oh, I know! Go around the left so she can turn into me, right? Or just stop behind her so she can make her mind up and I can get rear-ended by someone that donest like Bob and Tom, right? F that... I'm not on a fat ass Vstrom or BMW. I ride a SM for a reason!

But I guess that's my fault too, right?
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