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Old 08-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #991
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Carrying a gun in your tank bag is more likely to mellow you out than cause you to freak out. I know when I'm carrying I avoid conflict as much as I can because I know something the other guy doesnt know, I know had bad the situation COULD get.
I carry nunchucks in my tank bag! Now those, you don't want to mess with...jk

It's only more likely to mellow you out if you actually care about the person you're going to shoot, which in most cases isn't the case. I think it's more about being a calm, collected person that wants to diffuse a potential conflict or just walk away as opposed to actually owning a gun. I've been training in martial arts for years now and I find myself being a lot nicer and more respectful to those around me, partly because I don't have anything to prove and don't need to be a dick to anyone. I used to get angry all the time and yell when driving/ riding and be aggressive, but my gf pointed out to me that the only person it affects is me! No one else can really hear me under my helmet or when I'm in my car yelling through the windshield, so I just chill out now. I think I get your point about the gun though...
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #992
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I carry nunchucks in my tank bag! Now those, you don't want to mess with...jk

It's only more likely to mellow you out if you actually care about the person you're going to shoot, which in most cases isn't the case. I think it's more about being a calm, collected person that wants to diffuse a potential conflict or just walk away as opposed to actually owning a gun. I've been training in martial arts for years now and I find myself being a lot nicer and more respectful to those around me, partly because I don't have anything to prove and don't need to be a dick to anyone. I used to get angry all the time and yell when driving/ riding and be aggressive, but my gf pointed out to me that the only person it affects is me! No one else can really hear me under my helmet or when I'm in my car yelling through the windshield, so I just chill out now. I think I get your point about the gun though...
The trouble with the nunchucks is that anyone who's had decent firearms training will shoot you at the sight of them, no questions asked. In addition, they're regarded as being the same as knucks or a blackjack in many jurisdictions, and nobody issues carry permits for them.

It's true, once you start carrying a gun, you overlook the small stuff that's not worth bothering with. One also is more polite to others, because you never know who ELSE may be carrying. We now have over 300,000 individuals in MI who are licensed to carry, and most are in the SE around the Detroit quad county area.

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Old 08-02-2012, 03:59 PM   #993
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The trouble with the nunchucks is that anyone who's had decent firearms training will shoot you at the sight of them, no questions asked. In addition, they're regarded as being the same as knucks or a blackjack in many jurisdictions, and nobody issues carry permits for them.

It's true, once you start carrying a gun, you overlook the small stuff that's not worth bothering with. One also is more polite to others, because you never know who ELSE may be carrying. We now have over 300,000 individuals in MI who are licensed to carry, and most are in the SE around the Detroit quad county area.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."

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I'm really not trying to stoke any fires, but I would say this is dependent upon who's carrying. Some lowlifes simply view them as a means to get what they want. I would say that's a pretty small portion of riders that carry, but ya know, just doing devil's advocate.
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Old 08-02-2012, 04:23 PM   #994
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The trouble with the nunchucks is that anyone who's had decent firearms training will shoot you at the sight of them, no questions asked. In addition, they're regarded as being the same as knucks or a blackjack in many jurisdictions, and nobody issues carry permits for them.

It's true, once you start carrying a gun, you overlook the small stuff that's not worth bothering with. One also is more polite to others, because you never know who ELSE may be carrying. We now have over 300,000 individuals in MI who are licensed to carry, and most are in the SE around the Detroit quad county area.

"An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life."

Robert A. Heinlein

Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...T8lEpDL12Gy.99
I also carry throwing stars in my inside pocket. I ride a Ninja 650R. It's only fitting. I've thrown them at a few people too!
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Old 08-03-2012, 11:22 AM   #995
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Sometimes I leave space for other cars too, but around here, that usually results in three people trying to merge into the space that was big enough for two, and me having to fall back further for more space, more merging, etc. I feel like yelling at cars sometimes, hey dumbass, that space was for safety, not so you can cram your car in there with three inches to spare...
You think we have it bad? My first thought after coming home from a trip to the San Francisco area was "Wow, San Diego freeways are great!! Look at all the space between the cars".
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Old 08-03-2012, 04:30 PM   #996
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Compared to the east coast the entire state of California leaves huge gaps, not matter where you are in the state.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:26 AM   #997
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I don't like it even on a bicycle--one day, pedalling home from work at the bike shop, I became aware of a guy drafting me unannounced on a busy Seattle downtown street. I'm on my mountain bike, in street clothes (mostly), and I don't want to be responsible for a paceline in traffic. I grabbed two fingers of front brake without stopping pedaling, heard a buzz and felt a thump from behind, and was no longer being drafted.

Got to the Fremont Bridge and it was up. Guy caught up to me at the bridge and accosts me, saying "I would think that an employee of (my boss) would know how to ride." Had to tell him I was hired as a wrench, not a rider.

Drafting Dude was later president of Cascade Bike Club, a 15,000 member group.
Dood. Talk about an asshole move.

WhyTF did you think you're the 'drafting police?'

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Old 08-06-2012, 12:46 PM   #998
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Dood. Talk about an asshole move.

WhyTF did you think you're the 'drafting police?'
I gotta disagree. The other guy should have checked to be sure it was ok first. I probably would have pulled to the side rather than hit the brakes but I would also have stopped him from drafting uninvited. There are a lot of folks with bad etiquette in the road riding community and, to me, the guy who got on his wheel was the one with the bad etiquette, not the poster here.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:15 PM   #999
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I gotta disagree. The other guy should have checked to be sure it was ok first. I probably would have pulled to the side rather than hit the brakes but I would also have stopped him from drafting uninvited. There are a lot of folks with bad etiquette in the road riding community and, to me, the guy who got on his wheel was the one with the bad etiquette, not the poster here.
Thanks! If he hadn't been drafting me like we were the Soviet Pursuit Team, he'd have experienced no consequences. I'm not towing no strangers past long lines of parallel parked cars and blind crosswalks.

I shared this incident with (my boss) a few days later, and he thought it was FUNNY! Of course, he had some possible issues with the guy as they had dated the same girl at different times.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:21 PM   #1000
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WhyTF did you think you're the 'drafting police?'
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I don't know -- I generally think it's a bad idea to ride (bicycle or motorcycle) up inches behind someone's back wheel and expect good things to happen...
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:14 PM   #1001
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Carrying a gun in your tank bag is more likely to mellow you out than cause you to freak out. I know when I'm carrying I avoid conflict as much as I can because I know something the other guy doesnt know, I know had bad the situation COULD get.
Due to some police interaction and jail time in my distant past, I'm not allowed to own guns or vote anymore. But they let me vote now. I'm seriously thinking of seeing if they'll let me own a gun again. It was non-violent, drug related, so who knows, maybe.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:54 PM   #1002
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Due to some police interaction and jail time in my distant past, I'm not allowed to own guns or vote anymore. But they let me vote now. I'm seriously thinking of seeing if they'll let me own a gun again. It was non-violent, drug related, so who knows, maybe.
You'll need an attorney for the expungement process. A friend did it for an old weed bust.
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In situations where I'm mobile (and many where I'm not) a stranger that close behind me urges me to flail an elbow at them. Not so effective on the road, though.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:06 PM   #1004
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I wasn't riding this day... was in the Jeep with AZwife, just cruising along with surface-street traffic around 35mph. In the rear view I could see a POS Ford truck weaving in and out of lanes, and just being an ass in general. I knew the driver was going to try to pass me so I slowly accelerated a bit to tighten up the space between me and the car in front/next to me. Sure enough, this Ford pulls up inches from my rear bumper, and weaves back and forth between my lane and the next, trying to intimidate us to move over. They make enough progress to pull alongside and the female behind the wheel is animatedly throwing quite a few creative words and gestures at me.

What she didn't see was the cop just behind us. He lit up the gumballs and siren and the look on her face when we burst out laughing was classic.
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Old 08-06-2012, 04:15 PM   #1005
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I wasn't riding this day... was in the Jeep with AZwife, just cruising along with surface-street traffic around 35mph. In the rear view I could see a POS Ford truck weaving in and out of lanes, and just being an ass in general. I knew the driver was going to try to pass me so I slowly accelerated a bit to tighten up the space between me and the car in front/next to me. Sure enough, this Ford pulls up inches from my rear bumper, and weaves back and forth between my lane and the next, trying to intimidate us to move over. They make enough progress to pull alongside and the female behind the wheel is animatedly throwing quite a few creative words and gestures at me.

What she didn't see was the cop just behind us. He lit up the gumballs and siren and the look on her face when we burst out laughing was classic.
Good that this person got pulled over and hopefully educated about her driving style.

Not good that you added to your own risk (closed the gap) and deliberately aggravated this person. If you would just have moved over and let her past it would have been so much safer for all concerned.
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