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Old 06-19-2011, 08:02 PM   #16
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I see a lot where I am.

Three issues that they have going for them is

1-Quebec has the some of the strictest motorcycle license restrictions on the continent, it takes about 2 seasons to get your full permit,however someone with a standard auto license only has to do an 8 hour course to get certified for one.

2-Most 2 wheel riders are on average not impressed but from what I hear the market they are targeting is the atv/snowmobile rider that apparently makes up 50 percent of their sales.

3-There are a lot of people that won't even look at a motorcycle, suprisingly even my wife thought of a test drive.

Price wise not cheap ,but the base models are about the same as an R1200RT, FJR,ST1300 range.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:11 PM   #17
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If it's a way for her or you or her and you to enjoy more road time. . . I don't see the downside.

They ride like a road-going snowmobile. Which isn't a bad thing. Getting some leverage to the rear and getting a bit of a slide seems like fun.

But good Gawd are they fugly. Looks like some designer said 'lets see how much styling we can slather on one vehicle'. It makes a three wheeled Goldwing look downright svelte!

But if it lights her candle, that's all that counts. .
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:19 PM   #18
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A lot of people are afraid of riding street bikes. The spyder will give them a similar experience. When your on a spyder you still get that feeling of being outdoors. Go for it!
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:33 PM   #19
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The rotax may only be a 990 that is being asked to move a large platform, but INFERIOR to what?? And why are you YELLING


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yeah...
not sure why i was yelling
too many caps... i know
the funny thing is... we have a dealer here in my area... Barney's Cycles...
and the guy who runs the place is a friend of mine
i visit there quite a lot... always sitting on one whenever i'm in the showroom
that top-of-the-line version is ridiculously over-priced in MY estimation
but.... they sell every single one they bring in
and i'll never understand why... but, only because of the price
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Old 06-19-2011, 10:30 PM   #20
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I wasn't too fond of them until five or so of them showed up at the Chelan Sidecar rally. I got interested. Then I had breakfast with a fellow who has the RT (I think). He said he's owned lots of bikes including three Gold Wings and a Harley tourer. Says that he is far less fatigued at the end of the day after riding his Can Am than he was after a day on a Gold Wing. He was also pulling a trailer.
I am glad a market has surfaced for them. I disagree with the sentiment that they are for people who cannot ride a bike.
Indeed they are expensive, but so is a 1200 GS with a DMC or CSM tub attached.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:53 PM   #21
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She decided that the Aprilia Mana GT was not for her so I took it to San Jose BMW for them to sale...

She has decided that she wants a Can Am Spyder after spending some time on one at the dealer in Prescott Valley, Az. She took to it like a Duck takes to water. I thought it was great also, a lot of fun.
Then, you've satisfied the ONLY critical criteria: SHE likes it!

I think the CanAm for Mz Pam a BRILLIANT idea.

As the ladies say, about their gowns, dresses, and fashion accessories, it's HER!

As a wine steward might say, "Excellent choice, Sir!"

A good fit; I'm sure she'll have a ball on the Spyder on your forthcoming rides.

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Old 06-20-2011, 05:17 AM   #22
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I looked at them awhile back. The tricked out version is going for around $28K here in Minnesota. If I lived down south, I'd probably buy one and have a little car as backup transportation. But here in the frozen Northland the riding season is way to short for that kind of investment. And the touring trailer for them goes for $4K additional.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:22 AM   #23
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There seems to be a successful adoption rate out there for a new, expensive design, in an unproven market. I hope they are successful, other manufacturers get in the game, and the price drops.
I bet my wife would love one but at 28 large she won't find out.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:29 AM   #24
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My wife loves hers. She has an RS-S and now she keeps thinking maybe she should have gotten an RT.

I find it a lot more work to ride in the twisties than a motorcycle but in town or on the interstate (or in Kansas) it's much less tiring. It got her back to riding so I'm good with that. Don't think I'd get one for me unless I couldn't hold up a two wheeler any more.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:29 AM   #25
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Different horses for different courses.

Not my type of bike, but if it gets more people interested in motorcycling, its all good.
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:56 AM   #26
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My wife loves hers. She has an RS-S and now she keeps thinking maybe she should have gotten an RT.

I find it a lot more work to ride in the twisties than a motorcycle but in town or on the interstate (or in Kansas) it's much less tiring. It got her back to riding so I'm good with that. Don't think I'd get one for me unless I couldn't hold up a two wheeler any more.
My situation is similar, and my wife says she could handle one of these. I had her try learning to ride on a small Honda several years ago, and she cannot pick her feet up and put 'em on the pegs without looking!

The Can-Am is way beyond our funding, and I am not into snowmobiles ... so a sidecar rig is where we are headed, and mostly with my wife in mind.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:16 AM   #27
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My wife loves hers. She has an RS-S and now she keeps thinking maybe she should have gotten an RT.

I find it a lot more work to ride in the twisties than a motorcycle but in town or on the interstate (or in Kansas) it's much less tiring. It got her back to riding so I'm good with that. Don't think I'd get one for me unless I couldn't hold up a two wheeler any more.

how's the power band of the engine at hwy speeds, and passing on 2 lane roads, from the perspective of a sport touring motorcycle rider?

I was less than impressed with the semi automatic version; when prompted to shift, the shifting is abrupt and almost gives you whiplash (exaggeration), maybe they improved it since. I'd stick to manual shifting.

For someone not comfortable on 2 wheels, this comes close to simulating the riding experience and you easily become confident on it. But it's a lot of physical work in the corners, if you ride aggressively, you really have to lean into the curve to counteract the G-forces. Snowmobilers will be familiar with the ride right away.

An inline 4 or V4 would be awesome in this machine.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:40 AM   #28
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Hey Dean! If it makes her happy, the decision is easy. At our house when Mama's happy, everybody's happy.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:54 AM   #29
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First, thanks for moving this to Hacks.

The Aprilia mana GT was a fantastic motorcycle, I loved riding it, the auto tranny was the attraction for her. the problem with her is that she kept "tumping" over when she came to a stop. As we have two ATV's, a 500 HO Polaris and a 650 Brute Force Kaw, she is comfortable and a great rider on these. The Spyder we tried out has power steering and was a blast, hell I enjoyed the heck out of it. the literature claimed 100 HP and seemed peppy enough, it got to 70 very quickly.

Re the cost.........yes a lot, but much less than the Goldwing or Harley trikes you see out there. The Spyder is much more stable than these trikes and a lot easier to ride.

Yes my new K1600GT is more than outstanding.

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Old 06-20-2011, 10:32 AM   #30
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Did you already buy it? Have her take it on a test ride over a rough road with a tall crown on it. If she still wants it afterwards....go nuts. The snowmobile on asphalt metaphor is very accurate.

I rode/drove the first generation one on a typical New England road and thought it required a ton of steering input. It felt like it needed attention 101% of the time and it wasn't a very relaxing experience. I was also annoyed I couldn't do donuts on it. The electronic nannies were very intrusive.

The new ones may be completely different.
Last time I tried them out, I first rode a manual and it did require a lot of attention and was affected a lot by the road crown. At the halfway point we stopped and switched 'bikes', and I got on an automatic model. It tracked straight as an arrow and was not really affected by the road crown. I suspect careful attention needs to be paid to the alignment settings to get the steering characteristics you want.
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