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Old 07-23-2013, 08:33 AM   #2011
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Yes, exactly!

I'm glad Whitworth is obsolete. Now if only SAE would go away...

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Old 07-23-2013, 08:50 AM   #2012
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Boy, ain't that the truth.
+1 What a PIA to deal with
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Old 07-23-2013, 04:27 PM   #2013
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The old Brit bikes (and cars, etc.) weren't SAE nor metric, they were Whitworth standard.
Yep, I had an old BSA that nothing fit... it sucked. Sure wish I still had it though.
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:49 AM   #2014
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No bike can do it all but if there's a bike that is closer to being able to do just that than the Tigger, I'd be amazed. On the street and the dirt, this is quite simply the best I have ever had in 35 years of riding bikes. Is it perfect? No but then, the perfect bike for what I want to do simply doesn't exist. Failing that, the Tigger is pretty close.

As ever, YMMV of course.
Absolutely, completely agree.
My holiday last week I'm doing mountain dirt tracks one minute and dragging the pegs chasing sports bikes the next. Tyres were Heidi K60 rear and Mefo Explorer front. The Tiger went everywhere the KTMs went that I was with.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:22 PM   #2015
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That leaves me with another crappy tool that will just break again when I use it. No thanks. I didn't want another Craftsman product. I prefer to buy stuff I can actually rely on. I have heard good things about "the old tools Craftsman used to build", but the stuff that is in the stores today is just plain not the quality I spend money on.

Comes down to the fact that if you buy cheap, you buy twice. I have saved a lot of money by always getting reasonable quality. I got that thing during a trip where I had forgotten my 30 year old Hazet spanner. It was one of maybe three or four Craftsman tools I have, all bought when I needed them right now. For everything else I either buy Snap On if I can't wait longer than a few days or Hazet when I'm in Germany the next time. It's just what I'm used to and what the majority of my tools are, therefore I stick to the two or three brands I have good experience with.
I was going to recommend Craftsman Professional tools, fully polished, heavier duty, etc. But come to find, they are chinese now too and are probably not going to be around much longer.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:23 PM   #2016
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I was going to recommend Craftsman Professional tools, fully polished, heavier duty, etc. But come to find, they are chinese now too and are probably not going to be around much longer.
I used to buy all Craftsman tools, is there any decent non-Chinese tools out there anymore or do we have to start buying Snap-On or Mac tools?
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Old 07-26-2013, 04:27 AM   #2017
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I used to buy all Craftsman tools, is there any decent non-Chinese tools out there anymore or do we have to start buying Snap-On or Mac tools?

The problem with Snap and Mac is there are no retail sources. You have to be on a truck route to access them. The thing about Craftsman is there are Sears everywhere
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Old 07-26-2013, 06:44 AM   #2018
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The problem with Snap and Mac is there are no retail sources. You have to be on a truck route to access them. The thing about Craftsman is there are Sears everywhere
+1

There is nothing wrong with the quality of some Chinese tools IF their QC is up to snuff. Is all stuff out of China good quality, of course not but to dismiss EVERYTHING is short-sighted. Remember years ago when anything Japanese (or Taiwanese or Korean even) was dismissed as complete shite - now look at them.

Bottom line, buy good tools and look after them no matter WHERE they were made and you'll be good to go.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:19 AM   #2019
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In general it feels like American made is so stretched thin to be competitive with Asian suppliers, American made doesn't mean the same thing in the NWO, I mean, global economy we live in.
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Old 07-26-2013, 08:54 AM   #2020
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The old Brit bikes (and cars, etc.) weren't SAE nor metric, they were Whitworth standard.
Vintage British bicycles are Whitworth, too.

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I don't get how people break stuff like sockets and the like
By putting their not-considerable weight on the breaker bar.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:07 AM   #2021
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+1

There is nothing wrong with the quality of some Chinese tools IF their QC is up to snuff. Is all stuff out of China good quality, of course not but to dismiss EVERYTHING is short-sighted. Remember years ago when anything Japanese (or Taiwanese or Korean even) was dismissed as complete shite - now look at them.

Bottom line, buy good tools and look after them no matter WHERE they were made and you'll be good to go.
Truth. And by that same token, just because something is American made does not guarantee quality either. Plus in this global economy, lots of companies have their products made in several countries.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:21 AM   #2022
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Vintage British bicycles are Whitworth, too.



By putting their not-considerable weight on the breaker bar.
You got me... But my question still remains, how do people break things - I hear it all the time. Oh I broke a socket but what the heck are they doing ? I've wailed on my HF sockets and they are just fine. Granted I am not working on heavy trucks etc. but still....
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:22 AM   #2023
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Truth. And by that same token, just because something is American made does not guarantee quality either. Plus in this global economy, lots of companies have their products made in several countries.
Buying American for patriotic reasons I can totally get (I ride ENGLISH Triumphs after all...) but for quality purposes alone ? Doesn't add up.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:39 AM   #2024
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If this is a repost/205/whatever, my apologies. If not here ya go.

I missed out on the group buy pre-filter thing a while back so I flew solo. $26.82 for filter and $12.73 to ship from the Land Down Under. Arrived in 15 calendar days.

I'll refrain from making any comments on its shape/appearance.



This is the ABS model XC (2012) so had to get a few things outta the way.




It helps if you have a couple fingers on your right hand that are 8" long. Otherwise some patient manipulation with a screwdriver might be needed to install the lip of the filter in the airbox.

And voilà



Back together and ready to start sucking air.

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Old 07-26-2013, 10:30 AM   #2025
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You got me... But my question still remains, how do people break things - I hear it all the time. Oh I broke a socket but what the heck are they doing ? I've wailed on my HF sockets and they are just fine. Granted I am not working on heavy trucks etc. but still....
It's very simple, really... Americans are very fond of inventing new uses for common things... Also, Americans in general are pretty dumb.

... and then being video taped while failing miserably in execution and then appearing on YouTube, a reality show or Springer, or if they are really, really special, they will receive the prestigious Darwin Award for their valiant act of bravery in pursuit of the unknown.
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