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Old 11-13-2013, 06:31 AM   #2356
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Attempt a tube swap which is what you'd be doing in the field in your garage but leave the tire changing and balancing to the shop. I take the wheel off and get charged $30 per wheel for mount and balance. It just doesnt make sense to buy all these tools if you're not doing it on a regular basis for yourself and other riders
That's what I thought also, for many years. Then realized how much I'd paid for tire changes over that span, and thus invested in tire tools and a tire changer. Paid that larger sum ONE time, never paid the lesser sums since.

But it does not hurt that I change at least three sets (6) tires a year minimum these days, just for my own purposes. I don't count walk-ins.
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Old 11-13-2013, 07:07 AM   #2357
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Attempt a tube swap which is what you'd be doing in the field in your garage but leave the tire changing and balancing to the shop. I take the wheel off and get charged $30 per wheel for mount and balance. It just doesnt make sense to buy all these tools if you're not doing it on a regular basis for yourself and other riders
That's a lot of cash every time. This side of the pond we normally get free fitting on a loose wheel when we buy the tyre from a tyre depot type place. However, I buy my fronts online for the XC. If I were to take it there for fitting they'd charge about £15 so £22 for the balancer will pay for itself quite quickly.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:32 AM   #2358
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I hear ya and I'm pretty sure you got both myself and Kilo by some years in experience. Right now I'm averaging a tire swap every 18-24 months so I still cannot justify the loss of garage space on a tool I use so infrequently. That may change in the future though
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:51 AM   #2359
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I hear ya and I'm pretty sure you got both myself and Kilo by some years in experience. Right now I'm averaging a tire swap every 18-24 months so I still cannot justify the loss of garage space on a tool I use so infrequently. That may change in the future though
Thanks everyone. And yeah, Dubl-A is right, I've done a total of 2 tires in my career, so I am leaning toward having them mounted professionally and doing the tube change in the garage. I don't know that I'm ready to tackle the balancing.
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:52 AM   #2360
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Used to be when I lived in the lower 48 I got free mount and ballance when purchasing the tires from the shop. Not so much anymore. So with three bikes in the garage, I bought the changing stand and a ballance stand. Takes a bit of time, especially when mount Mitas Dakar tires.
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:31 AM   #2361
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I don't know that I'm ready to tackle the balancing.
That really is the easiest part. Once you've got the wheel mounted on the balancing stand it'll settle with heaviest part at the bottom. Give it a couple of gentle spins to make sure and add balance weights opposite and check again. Gravity does all the hard work for you.
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:29 AM   #2362
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That really is the easiest part. Once you've got the wheel mounted on the balancing stand it'll settle with heaviest part at the bottom. Give it a couple of gentle spins to make sure and add balance weights opposite and check again. Gravity does all the hard work for you.
Easiest, but can be the more time consuming portion. It helps to get both the large ans small weights.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:23 PM   #2363
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That really is the easiest part. Once you've got the wheel mounted on the balancing stand it'll settle with heaviest part at the bottom. Give it a couple of gentle spins to make sure and add balance weights opposite and check again. Gravity does all the hard work for you.
Pfft- balancing stand? make one-
A couple pair of old bearings from in-line skates or skateboard


plus a bit of hardboard, and some nuts and bolts



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Old 11-13-2013, 11:03 PM   #2364
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Pfft- balancing stand? make one-
A couple pair of old bearings from in-line skates or skateboard


plus a bit of hardboard, and some nuts and bolts



presto-
Well aren't you fancy?! Lol I was actually thinking of making something similar too cheap to buy one.


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Old 11-13-2013, 11:30 PM   #2365
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Pfft- balancing stand? make one-
A couple pair of old bearings from in-line skates or skateboard


plus a bit of hardboard, and some nuts and bolts



presto-
Well done. I did a similar make "your own tool" and have used it for years. It worked for more than 2 dozen tire changes. I sold my old used up bike for a new one. Now I have noticed in my tire changes that the rollers do not spin, but the newer axle bearings do the spinning. So maybe for someone just starting out, there may be no need to make something other than put the wheel on axle stand and spin it. When the bearings get stickier, then we will need to make the tool. Thank you for sharing. I have learned so much from this forum from all of you. Just trying to make it easier for some others.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:38 AM   #2366
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Well done. I did a similar make "your own tool" and have used it for years. It worked for more than 2 dozen tire changes. I sold my old used up bike for a new one. Now I have noticed in my tire changes that the rollers do not spin, but the newer axle bearings do the spinning. So maybe for someone just starting out, there may be no need to make something other than put the wheel on axle stand and spin it. When the bearings get stickier, then we will need to make the tool. Thank you for sharing. I have learned so much from this forum from all of you. Just trying to make it easier for some others.
I made this set when I owned HDs, as they used tapered roller bearings and unable to set up on a stand.
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Old 11-14-2013, 06:52 AM   #2367
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Now I have noticed in my tire changes that the rollers do not spin, but the newer axle bearings do the spinning. So maybe for someone just starting out, there may be no need to make something other than put the wheel on axle stand and spin it. When the bearings get stickier, then we will need to make the tool.
In using my No-Mar balancer versus wheel bearings, I've come up with different balance values and placement. I've found if I allow both sets of bearings to freely turn, I can't get the assembly balanced. When I have a case where the wheel bearings are spinning, I use a piece of duct tape wrapped from the wheel hub and around the balancer's rod. This ensures the wheel bearings aren't altering my balance. I sell tires out of my home shop and can't begin to say how many set of tires I've done.
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Old 11-14-2013, 08:06 AM   #2368
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Pfft- balancing stand? make one-
A couple pair of old bearings from in-line skates or skateboard
All very well if you've got that stuff laying around. I don't so I'd have to buy the bearings and the rest so for me £22 ready designed and made was a good deal. Plus it's a good solid steel construction so It's going to last my lifetime.
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:12 AM   #2369
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Am I the only one that gets annoyed when multiple people quote a post with several images, so those images appear several times in the thread?

Sorry, rant over... As you were
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Old 11-14-2013, 10:34 AM   #2370
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Am I the only one that gets annoyed when multiple people quote a post with several images, so those images appear several times in the thread?

Sorry, rant over... As you were
No, you're not alone which is why I didn't quote the photos in my reply.
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