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Old 03-01-2012, 11:47 PM   #811
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The bike does not need a damper. If you had the first idea about suspension set ups, you would know that slapping a damper on is no solution to anything. If the suspension is set up correctly you do not need a damper. And there's no need to be so damn rude either.
Mike, I would respectfully disagree. While you certainly DO NOT need a steering damper on road on the XC, off road is another matter, regardless of suspension settings. Good suspension set up helps a lot ... but when riding in certain conditions a Damper is like a miracle cure. HONESTLY.

Have you ever ridden in deep desert or dry beach sand? Damp sand is easy, but very dry sand, Bull Dust, Fesh Fesh or Slit ... is another matter. A big heavy bike can benefit from a steering damper. A damper fitted reduces rider fatigue ... lets you relax your grip on the bars a bit as well.

As mentioned, rocky trails can also deflect the bike off line ... in an instant you're down and eating dirt ... been there, done it, seen it. A damper can help mitigate this. You just have to try a bike fitted with a well set up damper. They really do help off road, especially on a loaded bike in sand.

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Old 03-02-2012, 12:40 AM   #812
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but my biggest issue is with the design of the passenger foot rests being welded to the subframe. It just seems odd to me that the Triumph engineers would've let this obvious detail slip.
According to the main BMW man ; Herr Von Kunthiem, it's because they copied BMW.
Yeah, you know they should have gone their own way.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:50 AM   #813
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an ass hole? or an asshole? just curious...
Off topic completely but I do wonder where the Yanks started "asshole" as an insult? After all, an Ass is another name for a donkey. So how/when did Arse become Ass?
Now, I can understand calling someone an Ass or Jackass.
I suspect it's like most of the English language, you've messed with it and made your own. Over here the insult is "arsehole".

Right, back to bikes.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:22 AM   #814
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Canada, being a Commonwealth country, also uses the term 'arsehole'. Heck we even have a few!

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Old 03-02-2012, 04:39 AM   #815
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Old 03-02-2012, 05:55 AM   #816
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I agree, Burren Rider this is your thread and we all appreciate the input that you have here. Please keep the great post coming.
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:11 AM   #817
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i agree, burren rider this is your thread and we all appreciate the input that you have here. Please keep the great post coming.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:02 AM   #818
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Off topic completely but I do wonder where the Yanks started "asshole" as an insult? After all, an Ass is another name for a donkey. So how/when did Arse become Ass?
Now, I can understand calling someone an Ass or Jackass.
I suspect it's like most of the English language, you've messed with it and made your own. Over here the insult is "arsehole".

Right, back to bikes.

haha, I don't get it either.

I really was not trying to piss anyone off. So I will appoligize for that. One thing everyone needs to remember is that this is no different than an email. It has no emontion attached to it. To say that I sounded like an asshole is actually completely inacurate! I have no sound when I type words on a page. The only way to add emotion or "sound" to a sentence is to use exclamation points, questions marks, and so on. In all of my statements I used periods. There is no other way to be any more calm while writing a sentence...

Oh yah, and I will agree to dissagree on the steering damper as well. My suspension feels fine for me. Also I look at it from a cost perspective. I can most likely purchase and install a steering damper for less money than it would cost to "set up" my suspension. It is also a lot less time. Also, I'm not 100% sure but I do not imagine that if I changed my suspension set up that my suspension parts would be covered under warranty. If you have money to throw at your bike and the sky is the limit, well, have fun and I am jelous.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:59 AM   #819
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Mike, I would respectfully disagree. While you certainly DO NOT need a steering damper on road on the XC, off road is another matter, regardless of suspension settings. Good suspension set up helps a lot ... but when riding in certain conditions a Damper is like a miracle cure. HONESTLY.
Wow, the day has come where I agree with you on something ...

I'm am absolutely convinced that a steering damper would have prevented my busted ribs last year when I went down hard when I made a mistake and went from not very deep into deeper sand and got the handlebar slapped out of my hand on my WR.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:16 AM   #820
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I'm am absolutely convinced that a steering damper would have prevented my busted ribs last year when I went down hard when I made a mistake and went from not very deep into deeper sand and got the handlebar slapped out of my hand on my WR.
Are these dampers speed related? What I mean by that is not the speed you're going but the speed the bars turn. Like high and low speed damping you get in posh forks.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:32 AM   #821
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Are these dampers speed related? What I mean by that is not the speed you're going but the speed the bars turn. Like high and low speed damping you get in posh forks.
Yes, they prevent high speed slap but let you steer perfectly normal.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:10 AM   #822
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Yes, they prevent high speed slap but let you steer perfectly normal.
So you probably wouldn't realise that it's actually helped you out of the shit.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:16 AM   #823
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So you probably wouldn't realise that it's actually helped you out of the shit.
Yeah, possibly. I would certainly know if I didn't have to run around with my ribs hurting for 6 weeks.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:34 AM   #824
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Yeah, possibly. I would certainly know if I didn't have to run around with my ribs hurting for 6 weeks.
6 weeks? You wuss, 3 of mine were properly broken & healed after 4.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:54 AM   #825
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6 weeks? You wuss, 3 of mine were properly broken & healed after 4.
After 4 weeks it was kind of okay most of the time - the problem is I prefer sleeping on my belly or 3/4 side/belly, so that certainly didn't help. And the first two nights with them busted and sleeping on a camping pad didn't help either ...
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