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Old 07-11-2011, 09:23 PM   #76
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Burren, Love the pics of all your bikes, and the work up you are giving the Tiger!

My husband and I are both enjoying our Tigers, but are waiting to wear out the stock Battlewings before getting a different tire. We are also impressed with how well these bikes perform off-pavement (even with the stock tires). Probably good you went with the SW Motech skid plate. We are still waiting for the Triumph skid plate for our bikes, and it's been several weeks now...
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:38 PM   #77
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This is a fun thread to read, Burren. :)

I testrode the 800XC a few weeks ago, contemplating indulging my old mountainbiking habits with a Tiger that's actually supposed to go offroad rather than asking strange things of my Tiger 1050 which proooooobably shouldn't go too far offroad.

Decided to keep my T1050 a few more years and spoil it with a few more farkles, so I'll just have to live vicariously through this thread instead. ;)

(And perhaps, some day, buy a 2nd-hand DRZ400SM or similar to wrap around a tree)

Looking forward to reading your ride reports with the T800XC. :)
Hoping to get some ride reports and even a few videos sorted soon. How did you find the 800 compared to the 1050 on the road? A mate had one and he loved it so it would be interesting to see the similarities.
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:43 PM   #78
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Hi Danny,

Enjoying your thoughts on the new Tiger. I was a staunch Triumph owner and after many years (read decades) of road riding on a few Daytona's I bought a 955i Tiger to explore more back roads. After 3 years on the Tiger I realised that it was a little too big and top heavy for where I was taking it, as well as a little too precious and easily damaged. At this time the F800GS was just released and as Triumph had nothing remotely suitable for what I was after I unfortunately changed brands.

I have been watching the reports on the new Tiger and am trying very hard not to be impressed as it is hard to justify selling the BMW as it really has done nothing wrong and fulfils it's tasks perfectly. OK, there are some things that could be improved on but you have pointed out it is the same with the Tiger.

Unusually for this site you are quiet close. If you ever wanted to meet up for a ride we could do some real world comparison reports between the two bikes. You appear to ride at a faster pace than I do and we both appear prepared to take the bikes almost anywhere and I would be more than happy to allow you to ride my bike back to back with yours over the same roads in the same conditions. My bike is fitted with the Rallye Moto steering dampener, raised bars, Mk3 Pivot Pegs and plenty of protection bars, just in case.

Either way, it is good to get some real world information on the Tiger in this part of the world. At one Triumph rally we went to they explained how, at the time around 2002, they made 13 different versions of every model to meet the different safety and emission standards of the different countries around the world. They also have different levels of "standard" fitment for different countries. I know the F800GS here comes with the trip computer and the LED blinkers and rear lights, among other things, as standard which are optional extras in most other countries. That would have to make for some variations to performance.

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G'Day Chris,

That would be great, I am only two hours north and always looking for an excuse to head to the Coffs hinterland for a ride. Maybe we could meet at Nymboida / Glenreagh one day and do a loop over to the Coast?

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Old 07-11-2011, 09:49 PM   #79
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G'Day Rob,

I have been in contact with Unifilter here in Australia and they have developped a pre-filter already.


I have got one on the way and will let you know how it goes. I reckon these are a necessity in Australia where the dust can be super fine and plentiful (except at the moment where it has been really wet).
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Old 07-11-2011, 09:52 PM   #80
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I looked at the Triumph plate on the Demo bike and decided on the SW Motech as it seems a bit sturdier? Happy with the fit and finish of the Motech plate and engine protection bars so far.
Happy Trails will get the plate done and I I'll recoup come of my money from the factory plate. I'll just sell it in the flea market here and lose a few bucks on it.

I have been very impressed with the crash bars HT made me. They will serve their purpose for the many dirt naps I take.
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:09 PM   #81
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List of changes I have made or intend to make when the parts come in:

>Kenda Big Block tires - installed

>SW Motech engine guards - ordered

>AltRider skid plate - ordered

Front fender risers for tire clearance. I will make these frome stainless steel rather than pay a ridiculous price to Touratech.

I'm interested in how people guard or protect against mud and splash into the interior parts of the bike.

I made up my own brackets to raise the fender on the weekend (photo's to come soon hopefully). I was going to use the Touratech kit but they were backordered and I liked the idea of going a little higher anyway (20mm, plus I like stuffing around in the shed ). I found it interesting that there is another threaded lug in the middle of the standard mounting points so it is almost as though Triumph were making this an option from the factory?


I also added the Triumph accessory fender extension and this seems to have reduced the amount of crap coming back at the radiator. Hopefully it will reduce the amount of mud coming up towards the triples too.


It is probably worth checking the clearance on this extension if you were planning to run off road tyres and no lift kit for the fender as it eats into the available clearance a little at the rear?
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:15 PM   #82
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Triumph should be paying you for promoting the bike in it's intended habitat.

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Good to see that you're getting out
G'Day Dave,

That would be great, don't see it happening anytime soon though.

How is life in WA treating you, still got the HP2?

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Old 07-11-2011, 10:31 PM   #83
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Did you ever put the protaper bars on? If so do they have more sweep than the stock bars? Thanks Rod
G'Day Rod,

I tried, but no go unfortunately. The Henry / Reed bend definately have more sweep than standard but don't have enough room on either side to fit the controls correctly (the perches are starting to sit on the tapered curve area). I reckon you would find some that do work well but I am going to wait and see what a damper kit entails (my guess is that it may mount below the bars and act as a riser anyway?).
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Burren, Love the pics of all your bikes, and the work up you are giving the Tiger!

My husband and I are both enjoying our Tigers, but are waiting to wear out the stock Battlewings before getting a different tire. We are also impressed with how well these bikes perform off-pavement (even with the stock tires). Probably good you went with the SW Motech skid plate. We are still waiting for the Triumph skid plate for our bikes, and it's been several weeks now...
G'Day Lori,

Good to hear you are enjoying your bikes. Most riders I talk to with a dirt background all seem to be surprised at the Tigers ability off-road. I have been thinking that the tyres on my bike are a big part of this but it is interesting to hear that the package of geometry, suspension and power delivery allow the standard tyres to work well too.
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To be honest I don't think there is much that can be done to improve this element of the bike, it is a cracker.

I opted for an Arrow pipe (primarily for the sound) and it really gives the bike a growl. I chose the Arrow as it has a tailored map and I like the integrated heat shield. I am looking at soft luggage options at the moment and I think this shield would be handy if I went the Giant Loop path. Staintune are looking to develop a pipe but it won't be for a while, otherwise I would have opted for the locally made product.



With the baffle out it can get a little droney every now and then but the sound of this thing ripping through the forest is awesome It is interesting to note that my kids can't hear me coming like they can when I am on the 400 (fitted with a Staintune and road legal baffle) so it is obviously not that anti-social.
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I am no mechanical engineer but I think this is an area that Triumph could improve on. While the action is silky smooth, 1st could definately be lower. I have fitted a 15T sprocket and this helps but I would still prefer a slightly lower first cog. I even contemplated 14T but I think this may be getting a bit busy on the open road.

A Touratech sprocket cover made its way on at the same time with the theory that it won't trap mud and trail rubbish like the standard, fully enclosed one does.

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G'Day Chris,

That would be great, I am only two hours north and always looking for an excuse to head to the Coffs hinterland for a ride. Maybe we could meet at Nymboida / Glenreagh one day and do a loop over to the Coast?

Cheers,

Danny
Sounds good Danny, could even meet around Buccarumbi and do the Old Glenn Innes Road, that is roughly halfway. Loop back down the bitumen then loop around through Hanging Rock to Clarence Way, not sure if you are familiar with that area but it is good riding country.

Hopefully that Tiger isn't that much better a bike than the GS like you are saying, it would cost me too much. I will send a pm with my direct contact details. Maybe a weekend in early August would suit, hopefully warm up a little by then.

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I am no mechanical engineer but I think this is an area that Triumph could improve on. While the action is silky smooth, 1st could definately be lower. I have fitted a 15T sprocket and this helps but I would still prefer a slightly lower first cog. I even contemplated 14T but I think this may be getting a bit busy on the open road.

A Touratech sprocket cover made its way on at the same time with the theory that it won't trap mud and trail rubbish like the standard, fully enclosed one does.
This is my one big gripe about the bike. It needs a much wider ratio tranny. A granny first gear and an over drive sixth gear. Can you imagine the gas mileage you could achieve if you were turning 4k rpms at 80mph vs 6k?!

I'll be doing the 15T too. Just ordered fork seal boots and the mud flap tonight. My Fuel exhaust should be here within the next two days!
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Burren, Thanks a lot man! I test rode an xc this weekend and have been trying to tell myself I don't need one. You are not helping with your rave reviews and you are giving me ideas of what I would want to add to one. I'm already sucked into the Triumph fold by my 955i Daytona. And I have a perfectly good dual-sport in my green drz(klx400). But I don't have a bike to ride cross-country and get off the road when I get there. So one of these may find its way into my garage.
Keep it up! I'll keep denying that I need one of these too and keep an eye on this thread for new ideas.
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Got to go for another decent run yesterday and still more than impressed with the Tigers off-road ability. Did a long stretch of flowing single track (nothing technical) in the afternoon and really enjoyed it. I just noticed looking at the pictures that they dry up at around midday. That is when I got into the forest proper and just didn't stop riding. Lunch was not until after 4pm so I guess that explains why my GPS track looks a lot like a spiderweb with trails criss-crossing all over the place .

Its funny how a new bike with new capabilities can really fire you up to go riding again. I know the novelty will wear off someday but it is a lot of fun right now.











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