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Old 05-07-2012, 10:23 AM   #1066
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I'm thinking that grease will just attract more dust/dirt. Perhaps it would be better to use a lube which penetrates and then dries non-sticky like Boeshield T-9 http://boeshield.com/features-benefits/auto-cycle/ or a bicycle chain wax.
Dupont Makes a great product for chains, available at Lowes, there are some threads about it, greatest stuff since sliced bread etc.... I use it for my bikes chains. Great at minimizing clinging dust. Sounds similar to the Boeshield.

If I understand correctly, what the mechanic is getting at is stuffing it with grease / never seize / copper anti seize etc. This way, if full, then there is no room for dust / grit to ingress. Although I suspect regular grease would heat up and run. Not sure how the copper stuff stand up to heat?

@Windy - thanks for the pics, I am going to have to tackle this soon myself.
Is there a shaft, inside the bushing on which it rotates, how much play? Is there just room for a slight coating or a proper stuffing?
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Old 05-07-2012, 01:24 PM   #1067
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Haven't finished reading the entire thread so my apologies if this has been covered.

The stock DL650 V-Strom CS sprocket is a direct fit on the T800 and it has the molded in rubber damper for reduced chain noise.

Hopefully this is some useful feedback. I intalled a "Sunstar" brand sprocket that fits a DL650 and is was a simple process. ($23 bucks) The sprocket did not have the rubber sound dampener but was really not noisey at all. Overall, I was pleased with the result.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:41 PM   #1068
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I missed this one on my first reply. My understanding of the stepper motor though is that if you do the maintenance, it won't be an issue. If it was a ticking time bomb I could understand the reluctance to take it into remote area's (I wasn't thrilled when mine played up in the outback). Now that we know about the problem though and what needs to be done to prevent it, I think it has been relegated to a bit of additional maintenance
can this little bit of maintenance be done by anyone with some basic tools,looking at blacktiger's thread i dont think its a 2min job,or are we talking about another problem here,

keeping a close eye on this thread as i am soooo close to buying one
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:42 PM   #1069
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I'm thinking that grease will just attract more dust/dirt
Only to start with. It will then keep the dust on the outside.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:10 AM   #1070
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Hopefully this is some useful feedback. I intalled a "Sunstar" brand sprocket that fits a DL650 and is was a simple process. ($23 bucks) The sprocket did not have the rubber sound dampener but was really not noisey at all. Overall, I was pleased with the result.
I think the one I bought was from hyosung with no sound dampner but couldnt tell the dif
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:53 AM   #1071
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can this little bit of maintenance be done by anyone with some basic tools,looking at blacktiger's thread i dont think its a 2min job,or are we talking about another problem here,

keeping a close eye on this thread as i am soooo close to buying one
The squirt of goop is a 2 second job, it's just disassembling everything that takes the time. . Once again, if it done at major service intervals it should not be something you have to worry about.

Pull your finger out man and buy that Tiger. Every day you pfaff around is another missed Tiger day you will never get back...

Just allow alot in your budget for the farkles... :)
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:37 PM   #1072
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WTF? Been like three weeks since a post in here. I refuse to let this thread die. Where you at Burren?

I'm compiling info on my new suspension and I'll post accurate information once I've really wrung it out. I'm working on it. Promise.

The regular Tiger thread is a bunch of guys that want to talk about bags and "should I buy this bike?"

This one is for guys that bought it and rally the shit out of it.

So, I had the suspension totally reworked and another valving change after the initial. I posted this in the regular Tiger thread and got two comments on it. If anybody is interested in making this bike what it really can be, stay tuned after this weekend.
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Old 05-31-2012, 10:43 PM   #1073
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In addition, who's broke shit? Fixed shit? Crashed pushing this bike beyond it's limit? Zip tied, band clamped, cut off, welded on, etc?

There's gotta be some real Tiger riders out there that ride this like the 500lb, 93HP dirt bike that it is.....
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:02 AM   #1074
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In addition, who's broke shit? Fixed shit? Crashed pushing this bike beyond it's limit? Zip tied, band clamped, cut off, welded on, etc?

There's gotta be some real Tiger riders out there that ride this like the 500lb, 93HP dirt bike that it is.....
Me, I've been working away for work! And are hanging out for a ride! It's been four weeks since my last good ride which was 1300km mainly gravel, awesome fun. Did have a big crash not pushing the bike to the limits just me. Doing about 90kph on single track on rock and slimy moss either side, touched the slimy stuff and had a blond moment and had a big high side. Very impressed, only minor damage, broken mirror, scratched hand guard, foot peg turned inside out and cracked the paint on the frame where the rear foot peg is welded to the main frame.

I must say that I am very impressed with the Giant loop Great Basin saddle bag, it wore most of the impact and saved the Tiger from major damage and the bag it's self did not move or get damaged in any way. That bag is awesome, although it does leak a little when you get pissed and leave it on ya bike in the biggest storm I have seen for a long time.

Very happy with the Tiger and the setup so far, Rox rises and some Pivot pegs will be next on my list to do.

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Old 06-01-2012, 01:16 AM   #1075
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av_mech regarding suspension work on the Tiger
Just got my tiger 800xc and am looking for suspension revalve and spring work, I put 500 mi. on it and did the 500 mi service. I haven't ridden it off road yet, but reading some reports about it, I think I need to have the suspension work done. I came from riding KTM adv 950 and it has superior suspension (gone) What is the price range on the fork revalve service and a larger spring rate work done? And what was noticeable when you first rode off road?
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:27 AM   #1076
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I'm loving the TKC (front) / K60 (rear) combo. Seems sure footed on the tarmac and awesome on slippery trails. Front is a little reluctant to turn in now but I'm getting used to it.

Still a bit nervous about wet tarmac though.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:45 AM   #1077
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av_mech regarding suspension work on the Tiger
Just got my tiger 800xc and am looking for suspension revalve and spring work, I put 500 mi. on it and did the 500 mi service. I haven't ridden it off road yet, but reading some reports about it, I think I need to have the suspension work done. I came from riding KTM adv 950 and it has superior suspension (gone) What is the price range on the fork revalve service and a larger spring rate work done? And what was noticeable when you first rode off road?
thanks
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Ditto....waiting to see what Suspension work is available. It's the weak link on this bike, otherwise Triumph did great.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:33 AM   #1078
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WTF? Been like three weeks since a post in here. I refuse to let this thread die. Where you at Burren?

I'm compiling info on my new suspension and I'll post accurate information once I've really wrung it out. I'm working on it. Promise.

The regular Tiger thread is a bunch of guys that want to talk about bags and "should I buy this bike?"

This one is for guys that bought it and rally the shit out of it.

So, I had the suspension totally reworked and another valving change after the initial. I posted this in the regular Tiger thread and got two comments on it. If anybody is interested in making this bike what it really can be, stay tuned after this weekend.
I agree the 800 thread is lame-o. I have been getting my bike ready for our Continental Divide Ride the first week of July so I haven't been doing much riding except for around town. However, I went for a 300 mile dirt & gravel ride on Monday. Unfortunately I took no pictures. We basically only stopped for gas. I really like taking pictures but the guy that I always ride with never likes to stop. I used to always tell him to stop for the good stuff so we can take some pics. He always calls me a pussy, and I always tell him to fuck off. I didn't feel like going through the hassle on Mondays ride. Oh well
Any way, I have yet to break anything (knock on wood). I did learn on Mondays ride that the Scout rear tire has an off-road speed comfort zone. I have the scout on the back and really liked it until Monday. Long story short that tire doesn't like to go fast in the dirt and gravel, it just has no grip until you get it on its side.. I did a ride a few weeks ago with a group of guys and really liked the tire. But on that ride we were going pretty slow. On Monday I was going as fast as I physically and mentally (and legally) could. It sucked. I planned on riding the tire on my divide ride. Not any more. I will be running the TKC 80.
I will also have my suspension re done but not immediately. I will wait until after 10,000 miles. I am happy with the way it feels now but I can tell it could be better. I will wait to blow out a seal or wait till it feels like total crap before I spend the money.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:35 AM   #1079
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Ditto....waiting to see what Suspension work is available. It's the weak link on this bike, otherwise Triumph did great.
I dont think its weak. No suspension is for everyone. I think they did an excellent job right off the show room floor.
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #1080
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I dont think its weak. No suspension is for everyone. I think they did an excellent job right off the show room floor.
I would bet 98% of XC's sold are never really ridden hard offroad. I agree every bike needs to be setup for the individual that's riding it.& how it will be ridden. Just the fact Triumph never put a ABS switch on the handlebar makes me think they also felt that many Folks wouldn't ride the shit out of the bike offroad either.
TKC's....After looking around & seeing what the rest of the world was using I decided to try the Mitas tires.Presently running the E07 combination & the rear is holding up exceptionally well. For a 50/50 tire ..it rocks! I rode 800miles in S Africa offroad 2 up on Tenere with Mitas E10's & they worked real well. Only problem is you have to source them from Canada & pay shipping. The THC80 rear only got me 2500miles before it was done, this was riding both dirt & N GA mountain roads.
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