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Old 08-04-2011, 11:31 AM   #46
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Looks like my brother-in-law's Triumph Speedmaster.

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Old 08-04-2011, 12:04 PM   #47
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Looks like my brother-in-law's Triumph Speedmaster.

Except for the engine, pipes and dual disc front. Aside from the color it's nothing like it.
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Old 08-04-2011, 12:11 PM   #48
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Except for the engine, pipes and dual disc front. Aside from the color it's nothing like it.
Don't forget the handlebars too.
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Old 08-04-2011, 09:03 PM   #49
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Just to correct a couple....Yes it has the 103 but it is still down on power and torque compared to the Victory. Per Motorcycle Consumer News: HD, 66HP-81TQ, Victory 80HP-93TQ. Power's not everything but still....

The Dyna does have a 6-speed transmission, however it is not an overdrive. Not an engineer here but the final drive is not less than 1-1 whereas the Victory is .93-1 for true overdrive.

Regarding the seat height, sit on both, forward controls or not you will have more room for everything on the Victory and you can adjust the pedals (shift and brake) to suit your preference.

holy crap, my ~74 cubic inch 1200cc sporty R makes 72hp/76tq to the ground with just a rejet, slip ons, and a k&n air filter, im amazed the friggin 103 puts out 66/81? my numbers bone stock from a crank rating of of 70hp/80tq netted a stock dyno of 58whp/72tq. those numbers suck for both bikes, i know a power commander on the FI harleys makes a huge difference and i hope there is one for the victory as well, but jesus those are shit numbers. both of those bikes seem like they must be incredibly choked down from the factory.
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Old 08-05-2011, 07:24 AM   #50
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Looks like my brother-in-law's Triumph Speedmaster.


In the sense that they're both motorcycles, you're correct.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:30 AM   #51
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My 2000 Sporty put more numbers to the tarmac too...... AND the Victory product could likely be superior to Harley's.
- BUT -
Allow me to be shallow here for a moment, part of the appeal (aside from EVERYTHING the Switchback comes with) is the designer-name stuck on the gas tank. There, I said it. "Metric Cruisers" have Japanese power and reliablility, but they're still a wannabe, Victory at least tried to some degree to be different, a little unique.... but they too are a copy of an Original.

I like it, and my 5' 2"ness would buy it if I could afford to. I imagine it might be an easy affair to switch out the forward controls with something a little less gynecological . I don't want my feet in stirrups..... I see NOTHING 'badass' about 'em, and riders I see with their legs straightened forward of the frame look as silly as ape hangers above the shoulders. Don't be that biker.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:00 AM   #52
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dammit...... I LIKE IT!

My Bandit 1250 can cater to my demands, it's a perfect bike.... but I'm 5' 2".... and even though a modified Spencer's Mod'ed saddle from off a GSX650F is due to arrive on my doorstep today, the bike is still too big for me.

I'll be going to look at this bike, but I fear Harley may not have taken into consideration that people like me (a REAL biker who rides, but with a 24" inseam) will not be able to reach those foot controls.
Well that just goes to show you what the manufacturers have to deal with when they build a bike for the masses.

Good luck in your search for the perfect bike. I am 6'-5" with a 36" inseam and I would love to sell my '04 Heritage with the seat height of your average toilet but my wife won't let me so we keep it for tooling around the countryside on the weekend.

Me and my moped:

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Old 08-05-2011, 10:11 AM   #53
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Dear god! You positively tower over that thing.


I consider myself pretty average all around, and it always shocks me at how small HDs are. They are some of the densest bikes I've ever seen too.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:17 AM   #54
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Well that just goes to show you what the manufacturers have to deal with when they build a bike for the masses.

Good luck in your search for the perfect bike. I am 6'-5" with a 36" inseam and I would love to sell my '04 Heritage with the seat height of your average toilet but my wife won't let me so we keep it for tooling around the countryside on the weekend.

Me and my moped:

there's that freewheeling adventurer spirit that we all share. wow.
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Old 08-05-2011, 10:24 AM   #55
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there's that freewheeling adventurer spirit that we all share. wow.

I also happen to have a bike that fits me to a TEE! The Harley has become my wife's bike and I am just the chauffeur.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:56 AM   #56
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ausfahrt ,
Wow.... I met something like you a couple years ago on one of my rides (our local "Mini Dragon" on Hwy 49).....

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Old 08-06-2011, 03:41 PM   #57
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I like it but I don't see much value.

For the same price ($16K) you can get a Victory Crossroads which has more power, more luggage capacity, standard ABS (a $1200 option on the HD), a true 6-speed overdrive transmission, more suspension travel, more cornering clearance, longer floorboards, adjustable shifter and brake pedal, a speedometer not in your lap, aluminum frame, larger gas tank, standard oil cooler, longer wheelbase, a lower seat height, 5K mile service intervals, more, more, more.

You DON'T get a dealer in every town, 100+ years of heritage and inclusion in the club....if that's important.
Not exactly. For $15,999, the Victory does come standard with ABS. It does NOT come standard with hard cases or a windshield. I'm very interested in the Cross Roads and spoke with a local dealer today. The OTD price - red, hard (non-removable) bags and with no windshield, was almost the exact same price as the FLD (w/o ABS).

On paper, the Victory spanks the Harley in almost every tangible category. Where it sucks though, is with resale value, dealer network and the overall fit and finish.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:16 PM   #58
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I also happen to have a bike that fits me to a TEE!
Herr Ausfahrt,
I share your height and inseam dimensions, and would REALLY appreciate knowing what bike fits you so well!
(Because as hard as I've looked, I haven't found it yet!)
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:06 PM   #59
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I like the Switchback, a paired down Road King, but $15,000 plus fees, prep, top case etc... isn't terribly enticing.
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Old 08-07-2011, 05:55 AM   #60
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Dead weight?

I like the wheels. I think the fat fender is for aerodynamics, rather than protection. For better lap-times, you know.

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I hate the front fender and the wheels. When I see big fenders that cover the side wall of the tire, it just seems like dead weight to me. I'd be curious if anyone has had this style of fender and a more modern style on the same bike noticed a difference in the water spray and/or rocks off the front tire.
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