Building A XR650l Engine - Page 11

beechum1 · 05-28-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mcma111

Of course you could do it this way:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919

I wish there was a sticky for this.

mcma111 · 05-28-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beechum1

I wish there was a sticky for this.

If you look closely it's at the very top of THUMPERS

beechum1 · 05-28-2012, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mcma111

If you look closely it's at the very top of EVERY FORUM

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Timieh · 07-11-2012, 02:13 AM

Very nice reviving the RFVC I was in also need of taking my whole engine apart and get a new wiseco piston.
All worked fine and good.

It's almost time to put it inside my motorcycle

Fred333 · 07-11-2012, 04:17 AM

Great thread!
I have a question:
You lube the bolts which go into aluminium.
Don´t you reach the right torque way later than with dry bolts?
Isn´t the danger of stripping the thread much higher?
Regards
Olli

mcma111 · 07-11-2012, 04:36 AM

I oil the cylinder and head bolts per the factory manual.

All of the other bolts get oiled as well but I don't use a torque wrench. I have a calibrated WRIST.

deejay_xr · 07-11-2012, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcma111

I oil the cylinder and head bolts per the factory manual.

All of the other bolts get oiled as well but I don't use a torque wrench. I have a calibrated WRIST.

Fred333 · 07-11-2012, 07:26 AM

Yeah, me too!
There are serveral sounds from the elbow....
10Nm = Knick
25Nm = Knack
90 Nm = Gnurbssplash (bone sticks through skin)

Olli

taco250 · 07-12-2012, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcma111

I oil the cylinder and head bolts per the factory manual.

All of the other bolts get oiled as well but I don't use a torque wrench. I have a calibrated WRIST.

Steve,

The thing you have to remember is that a lot of us haven't turned wrenches for 30 years like you so our wrist, elbows, whatever don't know when enough is enough. We actually have to use a torque wrench and chart. You're lucky, your experience saves you some steps.

mcma111 · 07-12-2012, 06:58 AM

I am well aware that a lot of folks don't have the experience truning wrenches that I do. I started spinning tools when I was nine years old and the coaster brake on my Schwinn Typhoon took a crap. Dad was to busy to assist and it was up to me to fix it. It took multiple reassemblies to get it back the way it was supposed to be as when I opened it up it spilled it's guts all over the floor. A lesson learned right there.

I get a kick out of reading how some guy takes his 3/8" torque wrench to tighten a 6mm bolt to 8lbs and wonders why it either stripped or pulled all of the threads out. It's a matter of FEEL which can only be developed by doing something over and over and over again.

I get where your coming from. It's just me trying to make a funny with the Calibrated Wrist bit.

taco250 · 07-13-2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcma111

I am well aware that a lot of folks don't have the experience truning wrenches that I do. I started spinning tools when I was nine years old and the coaster brake on my Schwinn Typhoon took a crap. Dad was to busy to assist and it was up to me to fix it. It took multiple reassemblies to get it back the way it was supposed to be as when I opened it up it spilled it's guts all over the floor. A lesson learned right there.

I get a kick out of reading how some guy takes his 3/8" torque wrench to tighten a 6mm bolt to 8lbs and wonders why it either stripped or pulled all of the threads out. It's a matter of FEEL which can only be developed by doing something over and over and over again.

I get where your coming from. It's just me trying to make a funny with the Calibrated Wrist bit.

Guess I'm a little jealous too, my bad. I'd still let you work on any of my bikes or vehicles and not worry one bit.

KyoXR · 07-15-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mcma111

. I started spinning tools when I was nine years old and the coaster brake on my Schwinn Typhoon took a crap. Dad was to busy to assist and it was up to me to fix it. It took multiple reassemblies to get it back the way it was supposed to be as when I opened it up it spilled it's guts all over the floor. A lesson learned right there.

I can relate..I was about that same age,I got tired of waiting for my bike/toys to get fixed by Dad and so I grabbed up some tools, fixed my stuff and have been turning wrenches ever since.
I thought I was going to get in trouble when he found out I was using his tools, but all he had to say about it was "be sure you put the tools back where you found them"

beechum1 · 07-16-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KyoXR

"be sure you put the tools back where you found them"

Who hasn't heard this a hundred times when they were a kid.... I can smell the garage and the VW beetle we were working on.....

taco250 · 07-16-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by beechum1

Who hasn't heard this a hundred times when they were a kid.... I can smell the garage and the VW beetle we were working on.....

My dad said it too and I did. On the other hand... my brother didn't and I always seemed to be walking through the garage when Dad discovered his stuff scattered around or missing and boy did I hear about it!

cms81586 · 08-20-2012, 11:11 AM

Need some advice from you XR650L experts...am I screwed?

Countershaft sprocket...easy to replace...

Countershaft with F'ed up splines...remotely servicable or does it definitely need replaced? If so...anyone have some tips as I'm sure the entire engine needs tore down to access it.

What gets me is the bike has 16,500 miles on it...put about 8000 of those on the bike in the past 12 months. I pulled the countershaft sprocket about 1500 miles ago and there was nominal wear so I decided to wait to replace it until the next oil change (already have the new one). Fast forward to today...yeah that's a lot of wear in 1500 miles. Not sure how that happened...chain is always properly adjusted and lubed so there's not a lot of slop. Suggestions?

CMS

07-11-2012, 04:17 AM	#155
Fred333 Adventurer Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Hamburg , Germany Oddometer: 43	Hello Steve Great thread! I have a question: You lube the bolts which go into aluminium. Don´t you reach the right torque way later than with dry bolts? Isn´t the danger of stripping the thread much higher? Regards Olli __________________ TT 600 36A, 59X, 3SW bastard Restauration here: http://www.tenere.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=82 XT 600 Z Tenere (34L)

07-11-2012, 04:36 AM	#156
mcma111 ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 7,965	I oil the cylinder and head bolts per the factory manual. All of the other bolts get oiled as well but I don't use a torque wrench. I have a calibrated WRIST. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

07-11-2012, 07:26 AM	#158
Fred333 Adventurer Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Hamburg , Germany Oddometer: 43	Yeah, me too! There are serveral sounds from the elbow.... 10Nm = Knick 25Nm = Knack 90 Nm = Gnurbssplash (bone sticks through skin) Olli __________________ TT 600 36A, 59X, 3SW bastard Restauration here: http://www.tenere.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=82 XT 600 Z Tenere (34L)

07-12-2012, 06:58 AM	#160
mcma111 ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco,Ca. Oddometer: 7,965	I am well aware that a lot of folks don't have the experience truning wrenches that I do. I started spinning tools when I was nine years old and the coaster brake on my Schwinn Typhoon took a crap. Dad was to busy to assist and it was up to me to fix it. It took multiple reassemblies to get it back the way it was supposed to be as when I opened it up it spilled it's guts all over the floor. A lesson learned right there. I get a kick out of reading how some guy takes his 3/8" torque wrench to tighten a 6mm bolt to 8lbs and wonders why it either stripped or pulled all of the threads out. It's a matter of FEEL which can only be developed by doing something over and over and over again. I get where your coming from. It's just me trying to make a funny with the Calibrated Wrist bit. __________________ Steve in SF BMW's 58 R26 79 R100s 91 R100gs 87 Harley FXRS-SP ~ 06 KTM 625 SMC ~ 72 Honda CB750/915cc ~ 92 XR600/654cc ~ 95 XR650l/675cc ~ 03 CRF450r ~ 05 CRF450x ~ 02 XR650l/675cc ~ 86 YZ490 ~ 93 YZ80 ~ 93 XR650l Project

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07-11-2012, 02:13 AM	#154
Timieh Adventurer Joined: Jul 2012 Location: Nehterlands Oddometer: 28	Very nice reviving the RFVC I was in also need of taking my whole engine apart and get a new wiseco piston. All worked fine and good. It's almost time to put it inside my motorcycle

08-20-2012, 11:11 AM	#165
cms81586 Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Sierra Vista, AZ Oddometer: 218	Need some advice from you XR650L experts...am I screwed? Countershaft sprocket...easy to replace... Countershaft with F'ed up splines...remotely servicable or does it definitely need replaced? If so...anyone have some tips as I'm sure the entire engine needs tore down to access it. What gets me is the bike has 16,500 miles on it...put about 8000 of those on the bike in the past 12 months. I pulled the countershaft sprocket about 1500 miles ago and there was nominal wear so I decided to wait to replace it until the next oil change (already have the new one). Fast forward to today...yeah that's a lot of wear in 1500 miles. Not sure how that happened...chain is always properly adjusted and lubed so there's not a lot of slop. Suggestions? CMS