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Old 03-07-2005, 11:46 PM   #1
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:53 AM   #2
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Thanks for the information

Nice to have a recepie, with the orange color I was forced to buy the sparkling layer of the paint as KTM spare part. $$$.....
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Old 03-09-2005, 07:41 AM   #3
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Silver formula?????
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:41 AM   #4
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ORANGE formula ???
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Old 03-09-2005, 08:59 AM   #5
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:20 PM   #6
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Silver 2003:

Kategorie : Motorrad
Hersteller : KTM MOTOCYCLES
Farbcode : 950
Farbton : SILBER-MET.
von-bis : 2003-0
VorlNr. : 171700
Farbsystem : Basislack
Formeldatum : 25.09.02
VOC g/l : 741.64
VOC USLb/Gal : 336.70456
Menge : 1 Liter
Mix Mischlackbez. Menge (g) Kumul (g)
MB812 Basis MIX 812 Silberdollar Fein 693.3 693.3
MB598 Basis MIX 598 Brillantsilber 100.2 793.5
MB811 Basis MIX 811 Silberdollar Grob 94.6 888.1
MB562 Basis MIX 562 Brillantblau 19.7 907.8
MB563 Basis MIX 563 Schwarz 16.9 924.7
MB567 Basis MIX 567 Oxidrot 7.5 932.2
MB570 Basis MIX 570 Weiss 7.5 939.7

Orange 2003:
Kategorie : Motorrad
Hersteller : KTM MOTORCYCLES
Farbcode : KTM/205
Farbton : ORANGE
von-bis : 2003-2003
VorlNr. : 746045
Farbsystem : Basislack(1)
Formeldatum : 30.10.03
VOC g/l : 681.5
VOC USLb/Gal : 309.401
Menge : 1.0 Liter
Mix Mischlackbez. Menge (g) Kumul (g)
MB575 BRILLANTGELB 262.2 262.2
MB579 ORANGE 487.9 750.1
MB570 WEISS 51.6 801.7
MB580 GELBTONER 126.5 928.2
MB564 SCHWARZTONER 26.3 954.5

see www.sxcolor.info :)
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Old 03-09-2005, 03:36 PM   #7
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Silver 2003:

Kategorie : Motorrad
Hersteller : KTM MOTOCYCLES
Farbcode : 950
Farbton : SILBER-MET.
von-bis : 2003-0
VorlNr. : 171700
Farbsystem : Basislack
Formeldatum : 25.09.02
VOC g/l : 741.64
VOC USLb/Gal : 336.70456
Menge : 1 Liter
Mix Mischlackbez. Menge (g) Kumul (g)
MB812 Basis MIX 812 Silberdollar Fein 693.3 693.3
MB598 Basis MIX 598 Brillantsilber 100.2 793.5
MB811 Basis MIX 811 Silberdollar Grob 94.6 888.1
MB562 Basis MIX 562 Brillantblau 19.7 907.8
MB563 Basis MIX 563 Schwarz 16.9 924.7
MB567 Basis MIX 567 Oxidrot 7.5 932.2
MB570 Basis MIX 570 Weiss 7.5 939.7

Orange 2003:
Kategorie : Motorrad
Hersteller : KTM MOTORCYCLES
Farbcode : KTM/205
Farbton : ORANGE
von-bis : 2003-2003
VorlNr. : 746045
Farbsystem : Basislack(1)
Formeldatum : 30.10.03
VOC g/l : 681.5
VOC USLb/Gal : 309.401
Menge : 1.0 Liter
Mix Mischlackbez. Menge (g) Kumul (g)
MB575 BRILLANTGELB 262.2 262.2
MB579 ORANGE 487.9 750.1
MB570 WEISS 51.6 801.7
MB580 GELBTONER 126.5 928.2
MB564 SCHWARZTONER 26.3 954.5

see www.sxcolor.info :)
Thanks NoiseData, that's what I was looking for.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:21 PM   #8
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Thanks NoiseData, that's what I was looking for.
Sure.
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Old 03-09-2005, 11:14 PM   #10
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Orange recepie

About the orange color, is the formula really all there is to it?

When I painted orange there was three layers. First a baselayer of orange "normal" color. On top of this there is a sparkling layer and finally clear coat. The sparkling layer of the paint was the one that I could get only as KTM spare part. As far as I can tell from the formula it looks like the base layer...? I don't mind being wrong since the little can of 0.25 liter paint cost almost 100$

I have the paper from KTM with color information at home, I can get it tomorrow if you are interested.
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Old 03-10-2005, 09:03 AM   #11
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About the orange color, is the formula really all there is to it?

When I painted orange there was three layers. First a baselayer of orange "normal" color. On top of this there is a sparkling layer and finally clear coat. The sparkling layer of the paint was the one that I could get only as KTM spare part. As far as I can tell from the formula it looks like the base layer...? I don't mind being wrong since the little can of 0.25 liter paint cost almost 100$

I have the paper from KTM with color information at home, I can get it tomorrow if you are interested.
Yes, that would be great. The more information the better off we are. If you go to the link that Noise Data posted, when you get to the KTM Orange, it says that it is a 3 stage paint.
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:20 PM   #12
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Here is the information from KTM:

First layer: Orange basic paint. Code: KTM205 or Iveco185 or Fiat056
Second layer: Helicon jade. KTM spare part number 304600 (0.25 liter)
Third layer: Normal clear coat

The color codes for the first layer are for Standox paint system. Which one of the three codes your local paint shop will find depends on how updated their Standox system is. But with the formula from Noise Data you can't go wrong! The second layer is the sparkling one and I was only able to get it from KTM. I even called the Swedish agent for Standox since their homepage indicates that they have both layers. After some research (they were very helpful) they called me back and said that they know that the paint exists, it has a code but they did not have the formula Sooo, only solution was to go to my KTM-dealer, order the paint and ask what it costs

Anyway, the result of it all is very good. I used it to paint my helmet and the color is an exact match to the bike. Very nice but some may think it looks a little.......?


There is also a touch-up paint stick, spare part number 304601.
(I don't know if the paint stick is good, I don't have it.)

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Old 03-10-2005, 11:36 PM   #13
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Anders, was that $100 US dollars for the .25 liter of Helicon Jade?
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:01 AM   #14
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Yep, my receipt is for 650 swedish kronor which is close to 100 US$ with todays exchange rate. You should ask your dealer though, prices seems to be lower in the US than they are here.
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Old 03-11-2005, 12:13 AM   #15
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Yep, my receipt is for 650 swedish kronor which is close to 100 US$ with todays exchange rate. You should ask your dealer though, prices seems to be lower in the US than they are here.
Yikes, that is expensive, but I know that multicolor paint is pricey. I have considered getting my own formula made up that would come close to the KTM sparkly orange. The only thing I don't like about the KTM sparkly orange is the strong yellow in it.
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