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Old 03-11-2012, 11:25 AM   #1756
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I was a bit nervous this morning.. or excited... it was time to see if a motorcycle would actually fit in the van.

The objective from the start has been to be able to put one bike in the van, one on the back bumper, and then 3 on a trailer; giving us maximum flexibility.
In the back of my mind I kept thinking "if I bike doesn't fit inside.. no big deal.. when solo I can just have it on the back bumper".
But then I spent $10 grand on a dirtbike yesterday and that thought changed to "it will be a LOT harder to steal my bike if its safely inside the van"

Funny how one's priorities change...

When I chose my isle width I literally went "that looks about right". I spent last night redesigning the passenger side cabinet in my head incase "about right" wasn't right enough...

I bought an Ogio "step ramp" thinking it looked liked a pretty good solution for loading by myself.

Wow! couldn't be easier..


It went in! Woot! that's a relief...


free standing in place...


...now what
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:34 AM   #1757
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:39 AM   #1758
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So I keep envisioning a system where the bike "clicks" into the 8020 on the van. Maybe design some sort of bracket off of an HDB hand guard or something where I load it in, it goes "click!" and I'm done.

In the meanwhile....

I want to take the bike out to the local motocross track today and start break in. I need a way to fasten it down.

8020...er... adult-lego-blocks to the rescue!

Looking around the garage to see what I had available...


if I take one of these.. move that set screw over there...


..take one of these awesome Wolfman velcro-d-rings..


...insert it in a channel and click a clevis strap onto it... I might be on to something


The wolfman d-rings are super strong..rated to 800+ lbs.. but do I really trust those little set screws to stop vertical movement? Take one of these big-beefy t-bolts & nuts...


bolt it in tight as insurance above the L bracket against sliding


...repeat on the other side


cinch her down...


gaps look perfect on both sides!



Not bad!


With just those two straps the bike doesn't move... forward, backward, etc.. I'm amazed at how well it is held there.

That said... time to look at the back end.

Here it is tied down with the spacing...


....so here is what I'm playing with now. 10 second removable rear wheel chock.



Long term system as I see it right now:

Load bike in (it rests nicely against the folded down carpet center.
Walk to front, lightly snug both tie downs
Walk to back, insert wheel check.. shove forward and lock it down.
Walk to front, pull both tiedowns firm.



They do make 1 inch round eye-lets that are 80/20 compatible and I'll probably order some and swap out today's d-ring mockup.. but it'll get me to the track this afternoon
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:39 AM   #1759
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go ride the damn thing..
I'm waiting for Jay71 to show up... then we're heading out to the track together
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:41 AM   #1760
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when you come back, pics or it did not happen...
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:57 AM   #1761
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Why not put the chock in the front?
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Old 03-11-2012, 12:25 PM   #1762
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Old 03-11-2012, 06:53 PM   #1763
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Gas fumes? No problem



The 500 spent the first hour of its life on the Supercross track. We pretty much had the track to ourselves.







today was a very good day!



I had to try and justify the big offroad tires

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Old 03-11-2012, 07:06 PM   #1764
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so ... how do you plan to protect it from "the bad people" when you and the Mrs. are out there camping and both of the bikes have to stay outside at night?


...and if I'm really worried, I have a Xena alarm disc lock I can throw on it. You touch the bike at all and 120 decibels scares the crap out of you

When travelling by myself the left gear box is designed so that I can sleep on it by myself with the bike in the van if need be (say if I'm heading to Death Valley or something with it and need to layover)
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:15 PM   #1765
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Why not put the chock in the front?
Daniel: I might... we'll see how things work out when the kitchen goes in.

One of my biggest concerns is the restraint of the bike in a head on collision.
I'm going to somehow incorporate the rear wheel's tie down to the stock van fastening points (the heavy duty ones that are made to hold loads in an accident) so that in a worst case accident the bike can't come forward and hit us.

It is still to be determined what I'm going to do.. but it was brought to mind again today when talking with a neighbor. About a year ago he had a car cross the center line and hit him head on (on 285 just above Buena Vista.. you know the area that climbs through four mile - he was on the edge of the cliff and had no where to go... everyone in the car that hit him died so they don't know why the driver crossed the line). He shattered his legs and back and has been having a long, painful recovery. Luckily for him, the stuff in the back of his pickup truck didn't come through the window and crush him (although it did shatter the window behind him and in the cab (he had a bed cover). He spent 2 hours upside down in his seat belt after running off the cliff before the emergency crew finally got him out.
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:24 PM   #1766
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There are times I'm tempted by / envious of the simplicity and mobility of your rig / set-up. But then I ponder things like security / really foul weather / being able to do jumping jacks inside on a cold day, and then I really appreciate my rig.

I look forward to the day we camp side by side and I can druel over your rig
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:27 PM   #1767
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Yeah I went back and forth on retainer walls behind each seat.. but with us using the chair swivels for seating facing rearward it is not a real option.

My Plan B is what I'm trying to do... stout cabinets and all contents of the van will be kept inside those cabinets.

...at least that's the goal.
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:28 PM   #1768
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I gotta admit.. I was a little worried about a belly drag but it cleared ok

My secondary concern was that temporary interal dirtbike straps would hold on to the bike

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Old 03-11-2012, 07:38 PM   #1769
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...what I wouldn't have given to have this setup a decade ago when I was racing.
I only dreamed of a combination like this.

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Old 03-11-2012, 07:46 PM   #1770
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So far the GS seems to wiggle about 1/4" left to right while riding around the dirt roads / potholes we have here. I'm guessing that wiggle is from movement of the suspension.

...do you have a chock? as long as one wheel is chocked so the tires can't slide out from under the bike.. the rest doesn't matter.
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