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Old 06-10-2013, 10:12 AM   #2851
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At least one of those was a good idea..
Still thinking on it


Here's another.. I have an intersection that I was thinking "I'll just 45 degree miter them" - which I did.. but then I realized they are opposite curves so the 45 degree miter doesn't work

I need to figure out a way to make a positive arch and a perpendicular negative arch come together nicely







I don't know that I have the skill/tools to cut a nice big arch in the one piece so that it would butt-up nice.
Bicycle frames used to be hand mitered starting with a hole saw then finished with a hand file.
Of course that was when they had external lugs and were brazed with silver.
Hand miter will take time but could be the most elegant and rewarding solution.
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Old 06-10-2013, 11:35 AM   #2852
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Bicycle frames used to be hand mitered starting with a hole saw then finished with a hand file.
Of course that was when they had external lugs and were brazed with silver.
Hand miter will take time but could be the most elegant and rewarding solution.
The previously mentioned "tubing notcher" is really just a hole saw in a nice jig, FWIW.


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Old 06-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #2853
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The Hehr window has arrived!

Background:

One of the things I've always thought was cool about Sprinters is the seamless glass look. When we bought our Sprinter.. the dream was to someday have full glass in it - BUT we wanted opening glass unlike the Mercedes window options. The idea of camping up somewhere above Crested Butte at 9000 or 10,000 feet and escaping the heat of summer while relaxing on the bed with full awning windows opened on both sides and the breeze crossing through the van is a little bit of heaven in my book.

CR Laurance makes opening windows for all EXCEPT the passenger side rear window on a 144".
The reason? The sliding door when opening could hit the awning.

That said, I kept seeing photos of Roadtrek Agile SS vans in 144" with a window that looked just like the other awning windows.

I started a thread and posted up this photo:


one of the first replies was by Gary32 posting this photo:


This only fueled the fire - that's the window I was looking for!

...asking if anyone knew where I could get my hands on one of these Roadtrek windows in this thread:
http://sprinter-source.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25963

Along came Bill from Oak Tree Vans ( http://www.oaktreevans.com/ )

Bill said he'd make some calls and see if he could find out.
He did and he did!

I've got to say, Bill has been a pleasure to work with. We ordered all of our windows (CR Laurence and Hehr) from Bill and he has been very helpful and has provided top-notch correspondence the entire time. As someone who also owns a company that revolves around quality customer service, it was refreshing to work with someone that has the same values. Going forward when I'm trying to source more items for this project, I'll be dropping Bill a note and giving him first shot at my business (I'm kicking myself for not ordering my Fiamma awning from him).

Bill ordered the window for me from Hehr Windows directly. They are the company that makes them for Roadtrek. They said the window would take about a month to make and it finally arrived here today.

In true "internet fashion" like all the kids do these days... here's the "unboxing" of this rare window

The window was delivered motor freight in a full size 18 wheeler.
When they called I asked them what it weighed and they said "92 lbs"
I figured it must have been strapped on a pallet or something.

Turns out is was full wooden crated


Opening the crate with a crowbar revealed foam underneath


Lifting the foam reveals a window that sure enough, is shaped to fit in the right rear and has an awning.

Note: the white line in the center is foam underneath catching the light


I lifted the window out of the crate and I want to say it is quite a bit heavier than its matching CR Laurence counter part. Either I'm feeling week today or this window really is pretty heavy duty.



The inner clamp ring is literally twice as thick as the CR Laurence one:


...and here is a CR Laurence one for comparrison:


I'm not sure if for this location in the van it needs to be thicker? or if they just build it thicker to Roadtrek's specification so that it matches up with their interior requirements

...and then here is the awning "handle" that rotates to open the window


Unknown variables at this time:

1) is there supposed to be some sort of handle or knob that goes on the awning to open the window?

2) What I need to use for "sealing foam" or a compression ring when I mount it (the CR Laurence windows had one built in).

3) How does the shape of the window's mounting compare to the factory stamping in the van? I have a feeling the glass surface area is actually larger in this window which means I'll have to do a bunch of measuring/tracing to get my cut lines instead of using the interior stamp as a guide. TBD.

....more to come next weekend.

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Old 06-10-2013, 06:03 PM   #2854
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What happens if some combination of impatience, stupidity and alcohol pulls that sliding door open with the awnings are extended??

(maybe that's why there's no handle for opening the awning! )
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:10 PM   #2855
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Only one awning is in jeopardy - and the awning will get snapped off.

I'm going to rig the window so it'll only open a non-interfering amount by default and I'm going to rig the slider door so it only opens 32" by default - therefore the defaults always being "can't snap it off".

I hope.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:22 PM   #2856
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Only one awning is in jeopardy - and the awning will get snapped off.

I'm going to rig the window so it'll only open a non-interfering amount by default and I'm going to rig the slider door so it only opens 32" by default - therefore the defaults always being "can't snap it off".

I hope.
Nice in theory...but remember that as soon as you make something idiot-proof, nature engineers a better idiot.
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Old 06-10-2013, 06:27 PM   #2857
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So it turns out by ordering a few select parts, and cutting a slot in the upper rail, I can retrofit the 2 stage door opener



I'll have to look into ordering the parts when we get back from our trip.

720000 72-7811 Guide rail-upper. 14173 cv1. $115.50
906-760-03-29 Stop. $51.77
906-695-03-30-7J69. Covering $32.73
906-766-05-37. Rail. $65.45

apparently I can get away with just the Stop itself if I cut my own slots into my existing rail (and I'll already have my own cover as it'll end up inside my cabinet.

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Old 06-11-2013, 05:23 AM   #2858
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At least one of those was a good idea..
Still thinking on it


Here's another.. I have an intersection that I was thinking "I'll just 45 degree miter them" - which I did.. but then I realized they are opposite curves so the 45 degree miter doesn't work

I need to figure out a way to make a positive arch and a perpendicular negative arch come together nicely







I don't know that I have the skill/tools to cut a nice big arch in the one piece so that it would butt-up nice.
Ask your friendly neighborhood bicycle builder.

They should have something like this. Primus Mootry is probably closest. ...OR... talk to Paul at HDB.

HTH

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Old 06-11-2013, 07:01 AM   #2859
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I think we've had a bit of an epiphany on the interweave fabric (finally after a year of trying to decide!).

This entire time we've been trying to find the right tones to compliment the wood. We've been looking for a warm brown/yellow... but what I think we need is silver!

It would blend in with all of the aluminum accents and contrast the wood - making the wood stand out that much more. At the same time it would then tie in better to the front headliner/dashboard.

When we thought of this it was one of those "DUHHHHHH" moments

i.e. the color of the headliner in this photo:
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Old 06-12-2013, 09:25 AM   #2860
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I'm at the dealership right now getting the 40K service done.

I was joking with the service manager that they need to put a disassembled AMG Mercedes V10 engine in the waiting room with a sign that says "reassemble it... if you can".
It would keep us thoroughly entertained and I'd actually look forward to these service intervals rather than dreading them




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Old 06-12-2013, 10:24 AM   #2861
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Apparently there is some sort of recall on the EGR valve... Considering they already replaced it once I wonder what the design flaw is? (van is a 2011).

I'll see if I can get any details...


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Old 06-12-2013, 10:34 AM   #2862
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Is that really a tiled floor in the srevice department?
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:01 AM   #2863
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Is that really a tiled floor in the service department?
You usually don't get to see that much of it, but the Oriental carpets were at the dry cleaners.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:11 AM   #2864
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You usually don't get to see that much of it, but the Oriental carpets were at the dry cleaners.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:24 AM   #2865
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Yeah... I'd rather it was a cement floor and an oil change was $500 cheaper.

Watching the camera they just raised my van a 3rd time. I asked them to flush the brakes too so that's probably why.

It has been on the lift for 2.5 hours so far. I don't want to know what this is going to cost.


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