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Old 12-03-2011, 11:14 AM   #961
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There is a "smart starter" product for Mercedes that now is Sprinter compatible. The basic product is $800/ +installation and it allows you to start your vehicle remotely (which is a bit tricky in MBs due to the security/FOB system).

It then makes the vehicle compatible with many of the smart phone remote start apps such as drone mobile or viper smart start so you can start the thing anywhere using your iphone or any computer/laptop/tablet.


...It sure would have been nice yesterday when I had to go out and start the van at 6am and it was 6 (-14) degrees

Have any of you gents tried out the smartphone remote start systems such as the drone mobile, clifford, or viper systems?

I wonder what actually is installed in the car that it can "connect to the net" to receive correspondence?
my van came with a rear heater that has a timer. It is made for cold weather, set the timer and the diesel heater will turn on at a set time for 30/60 mins.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:24 AM   #962
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I am still on the fence to pull the trigger on one of these.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:52 PM   #963
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Chris: that's in our plans too. An Espar running off of the main fuel tank. 22 hours of heat for a gallon of fuel.
It won't happen until phase 3. Probably next spring... we'll just have to suffer this winter
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:34 PM   #964
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:22 PM   #965
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We'll see how this turns out... not sure yet.

The idea with the bed frame is that it has three positions.

We use a queen size air mattress, duvet, pillows, etc (just as comfy as home ) when we are on the road. The platform will be down with the bed on top.

If on the road we want to "store the bed and bedding" the idea is that you pull the plug on the air mattress (it is one of those "electric pump built in" defaltes/inflates in a minute) and then push the bedding, mattress and everything to the passenger side of the vehicle, flip up the platform and clip it to the bottom of the overhead cabinets.

When night time comes and you wanna sleep, you flip it down, hit the button on the air mattress and 60 seconds later you have a queen sized bed again.

I'll fill the bottom of the platform with some of the matching hardwood so when flipped up it matches the rest of the cabinets.



When not using the bed (for work, etc), the platform can swing down and out of the way.




Or... with 4 bolts, the platform can easily be removed from the van completely in literally 30 seconds.

The top of all the platform is going to be carpet (we picked out a nice looking steel-blue carpet today.. I bought 96 feet of it so we should have plenty ). I'm also going to carpet the sidewalls for the 5000+ mile trip we're going to take later this month (although the side-wall carpet will probably be replaced down the road...)

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Old 12-03-2011, 03:40 PM   #966
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Chris: that's in our plans too. An Espar running off of the main fuel tank. 22 hours of heat for a gallon of fuel.
It won't happen until phase 3. Probably next spring... we'll just have to suffer this winter
The nice thing about some of that type of heater is that they can be connected to the engine's cooling system. That'll allow one to run the auxillary heat through the night and come out to a warm vehicle and engine in the AM. I'm not sure what units/brands do what at this size of application, but, I've seen them in the commercial vehicle market.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:06 AM   #967
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I take back all of my weather whining from yesterday.
The radio just said the windchill today is -4f (-20).

Today my fingers will stick to the aluminum

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Old 12-04-2011, 01:01 PM   #968
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I've been slowly making good progress on the cabinets/bed frames today.
I'm in for a bit getting my core temperature back up.

I had a few things I had to figure out.. basically coming up with solutions to account for the tapering of the van.

I built these "sliders" to allow me the adjustability I needed - worked out really well s


Two Tips working with 80/20 in a van:

Tip 1) built from the "center out" - figure out what needs to be square, make it square, and then built out from there (in this case the flip up module and the floor isle).

Tip 2) frame everything up with the 8020 loose... then get your measurements where you need them and start tightening out from there. You actually have quite a bit of a play available in your combination of fasteners to get things exactly where you want them

Everything loose.. adjustments being made:


This is the amount of taper adjustment from front to back:



Shimming and adjusting gaps before tightening:



Due to the size of these cabinets, I decided to put an extra cross brace on every box. Rather than use up all of my expensive 8020 fasteners ($3-$4 each ) I made up a bunch specifically for the cross braces:



Love the laser.. makes it quick and easy to drill a bunch of holes


Touch them all on the grinder to take away any burrs:


..and this is how they are used on all of the T-intersections:



Here's the carpet we're using:



Putting in the cross braces:




Which brings me to where I am now:



A couple of notes:

The current swinging bed platform is not what the final design is going to be. This is the "working design" that's going to get us through this 5000 mile drive. Made necessary due to not all my hinges arriving in time.

The final design will have the hinged platfrom cut in half. There will be hinges on both sides and each half will swing up or down over it's own cabinet. This will cause the gaps to be equal (unlike they are now) and will allow my final "connector design" to function. As for this trip, I just have some brackets the platform sits on (I'm going to bolt it down for the trip.. we won't be opening it).

ok.. back out to the garage to try and figure out how to carpet those sheets of plywood



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The final design will have the hinged platfrom cut in half. There will be hinges on both sides and each half will swing up or down over it's own cabinet. This will cause the gaps to be equal (unlike they are now) and will allow my final "connector design" to function. As for this trip, I just have some brackets the platform sits on (I'm going to bolt it down for the trip.. we won't be opening it).
OK. Up to now I was wondering how you were going to keep from banging your knees on the driver's side platform supports when the platform is raised.
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Old 12-04-2011, 03:13 PM   #970
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I know diddly squat about carpet. I'm trying to figure this out as I go...

First I had to take some off the boards to compensate for the carpet's thickness







I cut a piece out and stuck down some double sided acrylic tape...


I have no idea how to do the corners.

So I did them like I'd "wrap a present"

First I tried putting the sides over the end.. Second I tried putting the end over the sides.
The second one worked out better but it is still not great.

After folding over on to the tape, I used a staple gun to fasten it. This powershot stapler is awesome.. it has some sort of mechanism in it that accelerates the staples. It is soooo much easier to use than the traditional staple gun.







First piece in...



I'm thinking about taking the stock side wall and carpeting its surface to match...
I'm hoping I can do it with spray-contact cement?



..and at this point I decided I've had enough of the cold for the day.


...to be continued.
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:09 PM   #971
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:27 PM   #972
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:35 PM   #973
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Old 12-04-2011, 06:45 PM   #974
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I know diddly squat about carpet. I'm trying to figure this out as I go...


I have no idea how to do the corners.

So I did them like I'd "wrap a present"

First I tried putting the sides over the end.. Second I tried putting the end over the sides.
The second one worked out better but it is still not great.

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I'm thinking about taking the stock side wall and carpeting its surface to match...
I'm hoping I can do it with spray-contact cement?

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I know HOW

But I have NO IDEA about how to explain it in Print. And I'm On the Road (Red Roof Inn, Michigan City IN) w/ no way to draw & scan. Not smart enough to Draw on the computer (crayon is SO hard to get off the screen).
I'll shoot you a PM. Call me.

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Contact cement is OK. Brush on, or spray. But just remember you will Never Ever be able to remove said carpet without peeling off the face layer of the plywood with it.



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Old 12-04-2011, 07:21 PM   #975
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Good question.

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With sprinters, the general consensus is that the "weight penalty" on gas mileage is not too significant compared to aerodynamics. Putting things like roof racks, nerf bars, etc on the things tends to really impact the mpg numbers. I'm guessing that the flarespace would cost the van ~1mpg.

My mileage has changed slightly more than 1mpg due to the AT tires.
Geek I'm really digging the build and reading about the plans.

I have coveted most every Sprinter Van I see tooling down the road for quite some time but still wonder about the mileage these things get.

Tooling down I-70 at 75 to 80 what sort of economy are you seeing on average if you don't mind sharing?

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