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Old 07-22-2014, 06:42 PM   #1
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Lightest weight beast

So currently I have an XR650L that's been worked over a little bit and it might just be a bike I never sell despite it's many and vast short comings. But I ride a lot of interstate and that is where the big XR really lacks. I want something with an upright riding position that can handle long stretches of interstate, some fire road and be able to whip the front wheel off the ground in first or second. I rode a F800GS, a bike that I thought would be awesome, but it was incredibly underwhelming. At 480-505 wet weight(what I've been told, seen online) it was unresponsive and the front wheel took a significant amount of effort to loft in first.

I really want something around 450lbs ready to ride that will snap the front wheel up in first and second. I'm afraid that such a beast doesn't exist. I'm also thinking that a Multistrada might be my best bet despite being 500+ lbs.

So in short tell me what I want.


I may ride a little fast and someday it may catch up and bite me in the ass but maybe not if I give it just a little more gas.
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Old 07-22-2014, 07:23 PM   #2
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The one that went completely under my radar when I bought my F800gs was a KTM 950 se. Even with an auxiliary 2 gal tank it should weigh around 450lb.

What it needs to be a Adventure bike, ask an owner, because I did not buy one. The older they get, it seem the more expensive they become. But sounds like it would fit your criteria.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:21 PM   #3
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You're describing a uly, stupid fun to ride. Actually a 990 SMT is pretty close as well.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:37 PM   #4
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A Ully is over 500#, how about a Versys?
Right near 450# wheelie machine.
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Old 07-22-2014, 08:44 PM   #5
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Hypermotard or HyperStrada???
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:48 PM   #6
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The one that went completely under my radar when I bought my F800gs was a KTM 950 se. Even with an auxiliary 2 gal tank it should weigh around 450lb.

What it needs to be a Adventure bike, ask an owner, because I did not buy one. The older they get, it seem the more expensive they become. But sounds like it would fit your criteria.
I second that....
With aftermarket exhausts is well under 200kgs, more likely 190 fully fueled.
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Old 07-23-2014, 03:48 AM   #7
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Make your own beast . . . Just add a skid guard, crash bars, and TKC80's:



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Old 07-23-2014, 05:05 AM   #8
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Old 07-23-2014, 06:59 AM   #9
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I often wonder this same thing. Other than a high maintenance Aprilia RXV 4.5/5.5 (technically, a Beast), there don't seem to be many multi-cyl ADV type bikes where weight was a main concern in the build. A Hypermotard 796 (spec sheet says 368 dry) seems like the lightest. Problem with that bike is the wheels... very expensive to get custom spoked wheels, and it's debatable whether or not a 19" front would even fit without $$ suspension changes.
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Old 07-23-2014, 07:01 AM   #10
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Why did they stop making the 950SE? It sounds about perfect.

What's a 950adv weigh wet? Would it be hard to strip it down to a DIY SE?

What about a 990SMT? Wet weight? How hard would it be to make it more dirtable?


I may ride a little fast and someday it may catch up and bite me in the ass but maybe not if I give it just a little more gas.
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Old 07-23-2014, 02:31 PM   #11
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Uly weight

http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...re_sp%2006.htm


193kg=425lbs

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Old 07-23-2014, 02:36 PM   #12
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KTM 950 SE or BMW HP2 ..

R80G/S is still the lightest of the 800cc class bikes capable of USA slab duties .. but hardly in the same class horsepower wise as 950 SE or HP2 .. all three are pigs in the dirt compared to 210lb dirt bikes ...
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Old 07-23-2014, 08:57 PM   #13
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You seek a KTM

SE or 9X0. Nuff said. Of course I am a tad biased.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:21 AM   #14
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193kg=425lbs
yeah, right.

I remember some of the reviews, it did pretty good for some things, OK for others. However, it's a Buell and those are ... well you either love them or .

For whatever reason I had a Sportster for many years, I could live with a Buell engine. But many (most?) would not.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:35 AM   #15
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I'm basically in the same boat - I have a wad on $$$ ready to trade for my next bike. While I've been ridding the hell out of it the HonDog has to go. I was pretty convinced the FZ-07 was IT. But I just can't pull the trigger, and I don't know exactly why I'm reluctant.

Aside from it not even being the least Adventure, I think the main reason is I'm adverse to taking the bath with a new bike. I've had a string of tremendous used low miles bikes I've picked up for maybe half of the OTD price the first buyer paid. A new FZ-07 is going to run me $8K at least. But, for example, up in Bako there is a Hyper 1100S with CCW tank and a bunch of stuff, and the guy is asking $7,500.

I sat on a SMT in a showroom once - the ceiling split apart, heavenly light flowed in, and I could hear angels singing.
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