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Old 08-18-2011, 10:03 AM   #16
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:04 AM   #17
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:06 AM   #18
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:00 PM   #19
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Ok pictures make it completely clear now. Countersunk bolts are 10.9 steel. What is the material class of the other bolts?
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Old 08-18-2011, 01:06 PM   #20
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Ok pictures make it completely clear now. Countersunk bolts are 10.9 steel. What is the material class of the other bolts?
The counter sunks are 10.9, the long bolt through the case is 8.8 and so is the other M10 and M8.
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Old 08-18-2011, 04:32 PM   #21
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:12 PM   #22
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At the moment this is for the SE, if enough interest I will make one for the Adventurer to accommodate the adventures skid plate, a UK guinea pig will be needed, please PM me if youre interested, I live in Dorset.

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I'm in Dorset too mate if you wanna experiment on an Adventure. I've got a G-iT skid plate if that makes any difference?!
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:33 PM   #23
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Im interested in one for my SE if its no problem with an aftermarket skid plate....
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Old 08-20-2011, 03:27 PM   #24
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So the front of your plate is not bolted onto anything?
The face of the countersunk screws press against the original mounting stubs when the bike is on the sidestand?

Is this why the US competitor to Blackdog says you should not mount the Blackdog equipped bike by stepping on the sidestand?

If you drop the bike on the floor, wont the cases will crack just as if there was no relocator bracket fitted as the flat plate will deflect easily in that direction?
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So the front of your plate is not bolted onto anything?
The face of the countersunk screws press against the original mounting stubs when the bike is on the sidestand?

Is this why the US competitor to Blackdog says you should not mount the Blackdog equipped bike by stepping on the sidestand?

If you drop the bike on the floor, wont the cases will crack just as if there was no relocator bracket fitted as the flat plate will deflect easily in that direction?
First question yes, they don’t press but sit flush.

I guess why BD says you shouldn't mount the bike using the side stand is the same for all bikes; you just don’t because it’s just too much force on a small area. Its just not one part but the sum of.

If you drop the bike its not necessarily the side stand area that’s going to take the brunt, this plate is made from a substantial piece of 6mm steel, even if it did put force on the case mount points its going to be a compression force, and not a twisting force. On all the examples I’ve seen of damaged cases, I doubt any were caused by lateral compression.

I did a quick test tonight by pulling the bikes weight off the rear wheel onto the side stand and trying to feel any movement with my fingers between the cases mount points and the plate. Nothing, it’s absolutely rock solid. Then again it is 6mm steel, I was thinking of going to 8mm but you need some sort of reality check, you can get 6mm thick rsj’s (I beam), I want it to be strong but not so strong it could damage the frame in the event of an off.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:38 AM   #26
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A flat plate of given weight per m will flex way more than an RSJ of the same weight/m.
Flat plate flexes and bends very easily, compare a diving board vs a canoe, both similar weight/m and similar materials.......

if you can get a feeler gauge between the plate and original mount when the bike is on the mainstand, I bet you cant get the same thickness of gauge in there when the bike is on the sidestand.
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A flat plate of given weight per m will flex way more than an RSJ of the same weight/m.
Flat plate flexes and bends very easily, compare a diving board vs a canoe, both similar weight/m and similar materials.......

if you can get a feeler gauge between the plate and original mount when the bike is on the mainstand, I bet you cant get the same thickness of gauge in there when the bike is on the sidestand.
Of course it will, try and flex a 6 inch piece scaffold board; force need is far greater than a 6 foot long board. I wasn't comparing the strength of an I beam but the material, for me its the best solution, do you agree its stronger than ally, carbon fibre is incredible strong in complex shapes but not so much in flat sheets, titanium just too expensive. Ill try the gauges for you.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:26 AM   #28
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I made one like this. Was thinking of making more but saw that others already had.
Thing is the math says it's close. Reality testing shows it's just fine. Stop worring and go for it. Worst case is it bends a bit at a time when the cases would have broken. Your choice.
IMO

Oh edit I see there is another fastener low. I didn't do this- this is a bit better than mine - so there you go.
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:41 PM   #29
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if you can get a feeler gauge between the plate and original mount when the bike is on the mainstand, I bet you cant get the same thickness of gauge in there when the bike is on the sidestand.
Pay up. There is no flex between off and on the side stand, even with me pulling on one handed extra weight onto the side stand.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:38 PM   #30
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Hi I would be interested in one of your brackets if it would it fit a 950Adventure 2003 with G-IT sump guard.
the BD one will not fit as the 03 frame is different
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