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Old 10-05-2011, 01:25 PM   #61
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Getting it off my chest.

The new design, created by an engineer in Arizona, was not remotely similar to Terilinqua’s design and shared no common elements with it. The both served the same function – to protect the engine case - but that is where the similarity stopped.

That like some one showing you how to build a fire, then you stack it a different way and say you came up with it.
But if your way of thanking make you sleep better then fine.
And yes you did say y'all was working on a new design but it was a month are are so after you said you was all most out of my Braces and was going to need some more soon. I told you at that time that I was all most out too and you got my last ten. I was under the the impression at that point all was good and made another hundred braces.
But I guess that was my second mistake.
This was just to clear things up. And the last time I will ever talk about it!

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:15 PM   #62
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Guys I got the first batch of my SE/ADVENTURE 9*0 side stand relocaters this afternoon. It had a final testing on ACP’s Adv 950 before powder coating. Thanks ACP, for all your help.

It’s practically the same as the steel SE plate and weighs 376 grams, but made to fit with the G-IT aftermarket sump guard and the standard Adventurer 9*0 sump guard. I haven’t tried with any other manufactures of sump guards yet but I see no reason why it will not fit. I found with the G-IT sump guard, when the rear fixing points are true and straight like new, there is a 1 – 1.5mm clearance both sides of the frame and the standard KTM sump guard has plenty of room between the rubber bungs and frame for the fixings to sit in the machined recess in this plate, the recess has been machined down to 1.8mm so effectively it’s the same thickness as a standard M10 washer under the mounting point on one side but it retains the three mounting points which is better, this has been tried and tested.

This plate is made to function with a centre stand, so no centre stand, you will need a spacer/bush as with the standard SE plate, or you can just use a spacer from your own centre stand if you want to use your bike without a centre stand. I’ve had some Marine Grade Stainless Steel Spacer/bush's made, they are identically in size as the KTM ones and can supply them, if you don’t have a centre stand you will need a spacer, I think Stainless Steel is the best solution, I could have some cheaper ones made...but. Or you could buy the OEM hardened steel ones from KTM, part number 60003022021 for one.

The plate is made from 6 mm thick steel and has double layer powder coated finish and comes with all the correctly shoulder bolts and nylock nuts needed. If you have the KTM sump guard, use the existing bolts and likewise for the G-IT, etc. If you have a standard SE without aftermarket sump guard, let me know and I’ll add the M8 bolt you’ll need.

If you are interested in one, please go to Vendors.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=731769


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Old 10-07-2011, 12:01 AM   #63
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Looks good Charlie. Nice to see all your effort coming to fruition
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:07 AM   #64
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On ACPs Bike, standard sump guard.

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Old 10-07-2011, 11:09 AM   #65
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On ACPs Bike, G-IT sump guard, ACP takes a better photo than me.

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Old 10-07-2011, 12:12 PM   #66
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Looking good...... look forward to seeing one in the flesh :)

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Old 10-07-2011, 01:39 PM   #67
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:57 PM   #68
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I’ve had quite a few people ask if this will fit with the 03-04 Adventure’s. It will fit but you need to remove about 5mm of the flange that sits like an inverted V. Or file a notch into the flange. Guys I can understand some reservations in doing this but if you cut the relocater to accommodate with, it will weaken it, if you remove part of the inverted V you are effectively just making the frame the same shape and size as the 05 frames onwards.

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Old 10-09-2011, 06:31 AM   #69
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03 Frame with material removed for plate to fit. Cutting the plate here would cause a weak spot, this part of the frame is now the same as 05 onwards.

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Old 10-12-2011, 03:22 PM   #70
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Anyone else fitted one of the relocaters yet?

http://www.ktmforum.co.uk/adventure/...locater-3.html
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Old 10-26-2011, 02:56 AM   #72
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I strongly advise you people not to trim the frame on the Adv in this specific spot!!

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As with the Black Dog relocator plate, 03 and 04 Adventures will need some modification to the frame >>>



Approx 1" square part of the frame needs removing. This took 5 mins with an angle grinder.

Charlie will be sending me the prototype as soon as it's been fabricated for testing.

From what I've seen, the final product is going to be better than any other on the market. Charlie has put in a lot of time and effort to make this so, otherwise the endeavour would have been pointless I guess.
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03 Frame with material removed for plate to fit. Cutting the plate here would cause a weak spot, this part of the frame is now the same as 05 onwards.

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There were several early bikes with cracked frames at exactly this spot. A crack developed that propagate to the centerstand mounting hole.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82334

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70372

The replacement frame had the corner made with bigger radius.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:47 AM   #73
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There were several early bikes with cracked frames at exactly this spot. A crack developed that propagate to the centerstand mounting hole.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82334

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70372

The replacement frame had the corner made with bigger radius.
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I don’t think adding a 6mm solid steel plate will weaken or exacerbate anything; It will just make that area even stronger.
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Old 10-26-2011, 01:40 PM   #74
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I don’t think adding a 6mm solid steel plate will exacerbate anything; just make that area even stronger.
I did not need to remove nearly as much as that.A little trim on footpeg webbing and a little of the plate! [03 ADV]
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I did not need to remove nearly as much as that.A little trim on footpeg webbing and a little of the plate! [03 ADV]
I think gefr is wrong. All the reading and examples I’ve have seen are nothing to do with the webbing, more likely the material thickness used by KTM and forces involved. There is a limit to how much webbing can be used. From an engineering stand point, irrespective of webbing, adding reinforcement here can only help.
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