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Old 08-19-2011, 11:11 PM   #1
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Close Call - Can I call law enforcement?

All,
Yesterday, I was cruising down the highway, about 55 MPH
I come up to an intersection, I am on the highway, a ford explorer has a stop sign.
I see the ford explorer come to a complete stop, look both ways, I am pretty certain she sees me, and then pull out in front of me.
I locked both the front and rear, I was certain I was going down. At the last possible moment, the driver saw me and slammed on the brakes, missed me by a couple of feet.

I survived, didn't dump the bike, just some clouds of smoke from my skidding tires, and lots of adrenaline.

My question - Should I have turned around and followed the Ford Explorer, get the license plate number, and then call 911 to report a wreckless driver?
Thoughts?
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Old 08-19-2011, 11:15 PM   #2
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Why didn't you shoot the bitch?

Honestly, you won't really get anywhere. I only call in drunks and people driving extremely recklessly. (cutting corners in cars on popular bike roads)

Be glad you didn't get hit or have to lay it down. Go have a beer.
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Old 08-19-2011, 11:17 PM   #3
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She did what I always assume a vehicle in that position will do, not see me and pull out. I ride looking for an out, ready position, usually flashing my high beam to make myself more visible, while in my hi-viz jacket.

You could do as you asked about, probably wouldn't do any good, IMO.
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Old 08-19-2011, 11:22 PM   #4
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She did what I always assume a vehicle in that position will do, not see me and pull out. I ride looking for an out, ready position, usually flashing my high beam to make myself more visible, while in my hi-viz jacket.

You could do as you asked about, probably wouldn't do any good, IMO.
Same and this happens to me too, but I am way more prepared.

All my crashes are from me being stupid. Once riding to school in the snow , second the turbo kicked in on a 90 deg corner, and third jumping way to freak in high and letting off the gas on the last jump because I thought I would overshoot the road.
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Old 08-20-2011, 12:41 AM   #5
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My question - Should I have turned around and followed the Ford Explorer, get the license plate number, and then call 911 to report a wreckless driver?
Thoughts?
Not sure about Wa laws but here in Oregon, if a cop does not see it, they can't do shit about it
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Old 08-20-2011, 01:30 AM   #6
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I don't think this would qualify as wreckless driving. As you stated, she did stop, and attempt to look both ways.

Unfortunately, the human eye doesn't see vertical, only horizontal. So you and your vertical bike were not easily recognized by her until you were almost horizontal...

On the flip side, maybe she did see you but merely mis-judged your closing speed. Simple human error that could have been costly.

I've said this numerous times over in Perfect Line.... when approaching an intersection like that. At the slightest inclination of thinking they won't stop or pull out in front of you, I start some lateral swerves side to side within my lane... I can definitely say I've seen drivers who realize I'm there and they slow their roll or touch the brakes. Also applies to the person who may turn left in front of you. No loud pipes, ABS Brakes or Hi-Viz jackets here btw...
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:24 AM   #7
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First things first...go buy a lottery ticket
Being a small object makes it hard for other drivers to judge your speed and distance. The driver may have seen you but thought you were further away.
Next time (chances are pretty good there will be a next time) use your jedi powers and predict they will pull out then come up with a way to "help" them see you. The moving in your lane mentioned earlier is a good one, you could also turn your headlight to high beam (don't flash it).
Even after all of your attempts there is still a 50% chance they will pull out so get ready to use thos mad skills you have been developing
We are all glad you came away from this un-hurt.
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Old 08-20-2011, 08:43 AM   #8
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this kinda shit happens every day...


*yawn*
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:50 AM   #9
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this kinda shit happens every day...


*yawn*
yeah, cops don't care unless you're doing 10 over..

let it go.. just know that there are thousands more people like here that are just waiting to mow you over
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:56 AM   #10
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In Oregon it might be careless driving instead of reckless, but really, it was just inattention. It's something we have ALL done while driving/riding (if you have given driving/riding your complete attention 100% of the time, you're the first I've ever heard of).

My understanding is 911 is for emergencies. It doesn't sound like an emergency unless the woman was having a seizure, driving drunk, or was on fire. It's just an oh sh*t moment and ride on. When stuff like that happens to me I just wave and figure they realize they almost killed someone.
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Old 08-20-2011, 05:58 PM   #11
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Thanks!

Thank you everyone for the replies, I will have a beer and buy a lottery ticket

Also, thank you for the ideas, swerving inside my lane and flashing my brights, never thought about that. Great idea!

I ride pretty cautiously, I have had several of these happen before but this was the first one at high speed, and by far the closest.

Normally, my close calls are in downtown traffic, when I see something similar to this about to happen I slow down or sometimes stop, until the other driver decides what they are going to go, go, stop, etc...

I appreciate the comments on being carefull, 9 times out of 10 I am and I was pretty certain this driver saw me.

Now off to the mini mart for a lotto ticket and a cold one.
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:19 PM   #12
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Uh-Oh!

I was amazed when I studied for the endorsement test, It seemed to me the key concept was defensive driving, watch out for the other guy! Glad you escaped unscathed. Good luck with the lottery ticket!
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Old 08-20-2011, 06:27 PM   #13
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Worse deal

I was run off the road once----it was really close to being bad-------I hit the ditch and damaged my bike quite a bit, but I wasn't hurt.

The person stopped----we called the law--and guess what----------since we didn't touch----he told me I didn't have a leg to stand on. I was shit out of luck.

Guess I should have hit her-------hell---I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on then either

Accidents on private property can be very ugly---such as a Wal-Mart parking lot. I was in my jeep--and saw this 17 year old gal coming at a weird angle across the lot very fast---I was in a proper lane--she wasn't------I was stopped----she slammed into me and the cop wouldn't make a report. Not on private property he said. Had to fix that one myself.

It ain't fair---the bad guys wins.

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Old 08-20-2011, 10:27 PM   #14
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We've all had that happen before if you've been riding m/c's for more than 3 minutes. Live and learn.
Personally, I'd be more pissed at myself because I didn't take the necessary defensive precautions.
Like one of the posters above stated; ABS, Hi-Viz gear, high beams, blah, blah, blah, it doesn't matter if they're not looking.
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Old 08-20-2011, 10:39 PM   #15
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I was run off the road once----it was really close to being bad-------I hit the ditch and damaged my bike quite a bit, but I wasn't hurt.

The person stopped----we called the law--and guess what----------since we didn't touch----he told me I didn't have a leg to stand on. I was shit out of luck.

Guess I should have hit her-------hell---I wouldn't have had a leg to stand on then either

Accidents on private property can be very ugly---such as a Wal-Mart parking lot. I was in my jeep--and saw this 17 year old gal coming at a weird angle across the lot very fast---I was in a proper lane--she wasn't------I was stopped----she slammed into me and the cop wouldn't make a report. Not on private property he said. Had to fix that one myself.

It ain't fair---the bad guys wins.

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My insurance company went after them like a bum after the last ham sandwich at a free food giveaway.

She ended up paying me my deductible and she had to repay my insurance company.

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