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Old 05-10-2014, 05:09 AM   #15886
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:22 AM   #15887
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no kidding... what you ride in the roaming rally is where I ride...all the time... so deep long crossings is the norm here. in the last year I have had a fuel pump, voltage reg, tps and now the the throttle body... the bike is now being traded for a brand new 2013.. I have had enough with this one.. and really,, after riding the 690, is there another bike to replace it with,,,, that the smile factor is the same?

btw that black safari tank might be up for grabs, as I sold my DRZ and that money will turn into the RRaid fairing and tanks for next winter. I'll know better in a week or so..



LET THE NEW BLING SHOPPING BEGIN....
Aren't you just trading a bike that is fixed for a bike that you will have to upgrade all over again?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:36 AM   #15888
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Aren't you just trading a bike that is fixed for a bike that you will have to upgrade all over again?
yes but....

i stripped 90 % of the bling off the 08...

I'll have to re purchase
a gas cap
skid plate.... what won't crack?
hand warmers..

one of the nuts in the gas cap is spinning...
skid plate has been cracked and fixed no less the 4 times in three years
hand warmers are glued in...

the rest is on the garage floor.

seat
rear racks
wolfman stuff
safari tank...
clip on windshield
risers
gps
go pro mounts
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:56 AM   #15889
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I'm bored and don't have a bike at the moment...

earlier we were talking water and a rally... i'm at 1.31 sloggin through...


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Old 05-10-2014, 12:16 PM   #15890
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earlier we were talking water and a rally...
That Teutonic machinery was going so deep I was half expecting one of the bystanders to yell out "ALARM!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suY06PVK_bI

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Old 05-10-2014, 12:39 PM   #15891
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:21 PM   #15892
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:54 PM   #15893
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Hey all,

I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.

From what I've read in this thread, I'm on the fence about an aftermarket skid plate. If I'm riding gravel or dirt roads with only the occasional log jump (no rock gardens), is the stock plastic thing sufficient? Or am I begging for trouble? I've also been considering a radiator brace, but I'm not sure how necessary it is on this bike. I'm not a racer but I've flopped over once or twice on logs on my WRR and I was glad to have the rad guard, which also functions as a lateral brace.

I'm definitely getting aux lights, but the dealer doesn't carry any - I'm thinking I'll do what BigDog did and mount some Moto Mondos to the turn signal bracket myself.

I heard the rear brake is like butter. I'll definitely be putting on a brake snake as soon as I can.

Do engine crash bars make any sense on this bike whatsoever? They wouldn't on my WRR.

The dealer assured me the 2014 stock fueling settings are great as long as the bike gets its 15 minute ECU reset.

Am I missing anything?
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:16 PM   #15894
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Hey all,

I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.

From what I've read in this thread, I'm on the fence about an aftermarket skid plate. If I'm riding gravel or dirt roads with only the occasional log jump (no rock gardens), is the stock plastic thing sufficient? Or am I begging for trouble? I've also been considering a radiator brace, but I'm not sure how necessary it is on this bike. I'm not a racer but I've flopped over once or twice on logs on my WRR and I was glad to have the rad guard, which also functions as a lateral brace.

I'm definitely getting aux lights, but the dealer doesn't carry any - I'm thinking I'll do what BigDog did and mount some Moto Mondos to the turn signal bracket myself.

I heard the rear brake is like butter. I'll definitely be putting on a brake snake as soon as I can.

Do engine crash bars make any sense on this bike whatsoever? They wouldn't on my WRR.

The dealer assured me the 2014 stock fueling settings are great as long as the bike gets its 15 minute ECU reset.

Am I missing anything?
If your dealer is giving a 15% discount I would get the Akro can and Evo1 lid and get the dealer to put the Akro map on.
The '14 cannot be home tuned with TuneECU you must go to the stealer

There was a nice cheap fix a few pages back for the rear brake pedel if you don't want to get an upgrade.

You should get Rally Raid tank bolts top and bottom.

A draw back of the plastic engine guard is it doesn't protect the rear brake cylinder (better check if it's in the same position on the '14 - it may be in a better position now). It's also not flat which make putting on a stand a pain.

Heated grips? Touring screen? I have both and wouldn't be without.

Get a CACycleworks fuel pump.
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:22 PM   #15895
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Hey all,
I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.
Am I missing anything?
Howdy,

You haven't been too specific on your intended uses other than the gravel roads, no rock gardens/jump the occasional log bit. Are you going to be commuting long distances, have to drive slab to get to your gravel roads, will you be doing weekend or longer trips with luggage/camping gear? Just doing a little paved road/gravel road near your home?

I saw your question posted up in one of threads before(this one?) a little while ago--with no responses. So I figure if you give us more detail on intended use--and maybe some idea of what the dealer can order (cause a lot of the stuff people usually just order directly off of the manufacturer i.e. Rally Raid UK or Highway Dirt Bikes) that the dealer won't slap a big middle man up charge on for you--they of course have to make money too.

My 2 cents based on what you asked and have said would be as follows.

I would upgrade the skid plate.

If you are planning on carrying any luggage on the back I would upgrade the upper and lower tank bolts.

Brake snake is a good idea.

Make sure they do the recall/rear brake lever loctiting/re-torquing thing.

I would add the metal or carbon silicone on case protectors.

I would very highly recommend adding the peripheral radiator brace, and do the zip tie in place mod.

There are a enormous amount of modifications and farkles you can do with this bike--but I would start with those.
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:43 PM   #15896
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Do engine crash bars make any sense on this bike whatsoever? They wouldn't on my WRR.
I don't think there is definitive answer for that one. Most people don't have them--I've only seen 2 commercial and one one off custom offering (from South Africa) for the 690.

http://rostoffroad.co.za/?product=ktm-crash-bar

http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...o-R-up-to-2011

Some people say crash bars transfer loads to the frame in a drop/crash making it more likely to write the bike off? Some people take these bikes RTW, and drop them a bunch of times and keep on going without major damage--then again sometimes a front aux tank gets ruined.

What else is going on the bike--tank panniers to cushion a drop, an extra wide skid plate, slider bobbins, upgraded handle bar protectors, aftermarket front aux tanks in roto-molded plastic or aluminum or fiberglass/composite?

I think in the end it comes down to personal preference.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:19 PM   #15897
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I don't think there is definitive answer for that one. Most people don't have them--I've only seen 2 commercial and one one off custom offering (from South Africa) for the 690.

http://rostoffroad.co.za/?product=ktm-crash-bar

http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...o-R-up-to-2011

Some people say crash bars transfer loads to the frame in a drop/crash making it more likely to write the bike off? Some people take these bikes RTW, and drop them a bunch of times and keep on going without major damage--then again sometimes a front aux tank gets ruined.

What else is going on the bike--tank panniers to cushion a drop, an extra wide skid plate, slider bobbins, upgraded handle bar protectors, aftermarket front aux tanks in roto-molded plastic or aluminum or fiberglass/composite?

I think in the end it comes down to personal preference.
I agree about the crash bars. Take it from someone who has had a few offs at speed offroad. As long as you have a luggage rack the motor will be protected.
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:35 PM   #15898
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If your dealer is giving a 15% discount I would get the Akro can and Evo1 lid and get the dealer to put the Akro map on.
The '14 cannot be home tuned with TuneECU you must go to the stealer I'm going to try to keep the exhaust and intake as close to stock as possible unless there's a huge heat problem. I don't need any extra power and I like the quiet. As for the weight, I'd rather skip some lunches than spend $1k.

There was a nice cheap fix a few pages back for the rear brake pedel if you don't want to get an upgrade. Noted, thanks!

You should get Rally Raid tank bolts top and bottom. I don't want to tempt fate here but is anyone aware of the rate at which 2014s exhibit this failure? I think the part numbers are different but that might just be because of the exhaust bracket mount. I don't plan on loading down my bike with a lot of luggage right now, and will reconsider spending $100+ on bolts if I do at some point in the future.

A draw back of the plastic engine guard is it doesn't protect the rear brake cylinder (better check if it's in the same position on the '14 - it may be in a better position now). It's also not flat which make putting on a stand a pain. If anyone could address whether this is different for the '14s I'd be very grateful.

Heated grips? Touring screen? I have both and wouldn't be without. Not for me, at least not now. Being 21, I crave discomfort.

Get a CACycleworks fuel pump. Are the fuel pumps still naughty in the '14s? Can anyone confirm?
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Howdy,

You haven't been too specific on your intended uses other than the gravel roads, no rock gardens/jump the occasional log bit. Are you going to be commuting long distances, have to drive slab to get to your gravel roads, will you be doing weekend or longer trips with luggage/camping gear? Just doing a little paved road/gravel road near your home? Sorry - I would be more specific if I could but this is my one-bike solution! I will not be regularly commuting at any point and I won't be loading it down with luggage at least for the next few months until I'm sure I get the kinks ironed out. For the time being, I won't be carrying anything that wouldn't fit in a backpack. I plan on using this tank bag that has worked well on every bike I've used it on so far.

I saw your question posted up in one of threads before(this one?) a little while ago--with no responses. yeah *sniffle* that was the other 2014 thread So I figure if you give us more detail on intended use--and maybe some idea of what the dealer can order (cause a lot of the stuff people usually just order directly off of the manufacturer i.e. Rally Raid UK or Highway Dirt Bikes) that the dealer won't slap a big middle man up charge on for you--they of course have to make money too. Yeah, the dealer sent me the 2014 Powerparts catalog and said he'd order anything in there and the discount also applies to anything in his store. I'll be weighing the 15% discount against the difference between PowerParts and Adventurespec, etc. offerings.

My 2 cents based on what you asked and have said would be as follows.

I would upgrade the skid plate.

If you are planning on carrying any luggage on the back I would upgrade the upper and lower tank bolts.

Brake snake is a good idea.

Make sure they do the recall/rear brake lever loctiting/re-torquing thing.

I would add the metal or carbon silicone on case protectors.

I would very highly recommend adding the peripheral radiator brace, and do the zip tie in place mod.

There are a enormous amount of modifications and farkles you can do with this bike--but I would start with those. Thanks, much appreciated!
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I don't think there is definitive answer for that one. Most people don't have them--I've only seen 2 commercial and one one off custom offering (from South Africa) for the 690.

http://rostoffroad.co.za/?product=ktm-crash-bar

http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/P...o-R-up-to-2011

Some people say crash bars transfer loads to the frame in a drop/crash making it more likely to write the bike off? Some people take these bikes RTW, and drop them a bunch of times and keep on going without major damage--then again sometimes a front aux tank gets ruined. I think I'm gonna leave out the crash bars for now. I don't need the extra weight and expense and the bike looks like it'll drop well.

What else is going on the bike--tank panniers to cushion a drop, an extra wide skid plate, slider bobbins, upgraded handle bar protectors, aftermarket front aux tanks in roto-molded plastic or aluminum or fiberglass/composite? Likely none of the above, at least not in the foreseeable future. For the summer, I'm going to be taking it for a few day trips and offroad on some forest trails of varying size, dirt roads and gravel roads. The bike seems well equipped to do so bone stock. I like my current little tail bag and I thought I might see if my dad's lightweight saddlebags will fit OK and carry a day's worth of supplies for less than $800. I'll likely put some foil insulation between them and the exhaust - maybe that will keep them from burning up.

I think in the end it comes down to personal preference.

Thanks y'all! One more question - does the exhaust still smoke off the rear turn signal, or after several years is that not a thing anymore?
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I agree about the crash bars. Take it from someone who has had a few offs at speed offroad. As long as you have a luggage rack the motor will be protected.
On the other hand, if I get these crash bars, do you think it might exempt me from needing a radiator brace? They both cost roughly the same...hmmm...

also I don't plan on having a luggage rack for a while :\ I'm pretty sure the bike crashes fine anyway.
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Thanks y'all! One more question - does the exhaust still smoke off the rear turn signal, or after several years is that not a thing anymore?
It didn't melt the turn signal on my 13, but I only had the stock can on for 300 miles, and then put the Wings on. On the 14, I don't know. I do know that the 13 did burn anything, and everything else that got within range of it though lol, including arms, legs, pants etc. Talk about a radiant heater...

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On the other hand, if I get these crash bars, do you think it might exempt me from needing a radiator brace? They both cost roughly the same...hmmm...

also I don't plan on having a luggage rack for a while :\ I'm pretty sure the bike crashes fine anyway.
The bike does crash pretty well. I went with rad protection over crash bars. The one thing I didn't catch was the brake pedal folding into the clutch cover when I dropped it the first week I owned in in a water crossing. And yes, it did leak oil. I've since added covers to both side cases.
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