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Old 05-10-2014, 04:10 AM   #15901
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. But I also have an 08 which doesn't have a fly by wire system.
, um I been working on an 08 .... all 690's are fly by wire... unless its carburated.

even though they have cables from the bars, there is a sensor that tells the throttle body what to do.. to me that is fly by wire..
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:39 AM   #15902
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, um I been working on an 08 .... all 690's are fly by wire... unless its carburated.

even though they have cables from the bars, there is a sensor that tells the throttle body what to do.. to me that is fly by wire..
Not quite correct if he has vortex ECU it cuts out the FBW stepper motor giving a direct input or unless as you stated it's been carb'd
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:49 AM   #15903
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I think he's talking about the electronic throttle tube on the 2014. Previous models had a cable operated throttl.

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, um I been working on an 08 .... all 690's are fly by wire... unless its carburated.

even though they have cables from the bars, there is a sensor that tells the throttle body what to do.. to me that is fly by wire..
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:54 AM   #15904
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I think he's talking about the electronic throttle tube on the 2014. Previous models had a cable operated throttl.
Correct, the 2014 is the only throttle-by-wire bike in the 690 line currently.
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:55 AM   #15905
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Not quite correct if he has vortex ECU it cuts out the FBW stepper motor giving a direct input or unless as you stated it's been carb'd
isn't the vortex ecu a modification from stock?


my understanding of the throttle input, is (not including 2014)

cables turn apad sensor
apad tells ecu to turn on throttle body motor to open
thad tells ecu to turn off tb motor when input has been achieved

i have not seen a 2014, but i am guessing apad is now on the bars, probably with a new name...

all seems to me throttle plate is controlled by wire...
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:09 AM   #15906
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Yes but so is a carb .
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:22 AM   #15907
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no kidding... what you ride in the roaming rally is where I ride...all the time... so deep long crossings is the norm here. in the last year I have had a fuel pump, voltage reg, tps and now the the throttle body... the bike is now being traded for a brand new 2013.. I have had enough with this one.. and really,, after riding the 690, is there another bike to replace it with,,,, that the smile factor is the same?

btw that black safari tank might be up for grabs, as I sold my DRZ and that money will turn into the RRaid fairing and tanks for next winter. I'll know better in a week or so..



LET THE NEW BLING SHOPPING BEGIN....
Aren't you just trading a bike that is fixed for a bike that you will have to upgrade all over again?
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Old 05-10-2014, 05:36 AM   #15908
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Aren't you just trading a bike that is fixed for a bike that you will have to upgrade all over again?
yes but....

i stripped 90 % of the bling off the 08...

I'll have to re purchase
a gas cap
skid plate.... what won't crack?
hand warmers..

one of the nuts in the gas cap is spinning...
skid plate has been cracked and fixed no less the 4 times in three years
hand warmers are glued in...

the rest is on the garage floor.

seat
rear racks
wolfman stuff
safari tank...
clip on windshield
risers
gps
go pro mounts
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Old 05-10-2014, 09:56 AM   #15909
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I'm bored and don't have a bike at the moment...

earlier we were talking water and a rally... i'm at 1.31 sloggin through...


Roaming Rally, Eastern Ontario May,2011 from Nolan Watts on Vimeo.

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Old 05-10-2014, 12:16 PM   #15910
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earlier we were talking water and a rally...
That Teutonic machinery was going so deep I was half expecting one of the bystanders to yell out "ALARM!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suY06PVK_bI

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Old 05-10-2014, 12:39 PM   #15911
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Old 05-10-2014, 01:21 PM   #15912
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Interesting. So a Vortex eliminates the stepper motor? Sounds like a reasonable alternative to the motor replacement.
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Old 05-10-2014, 02:54 PM   #15913
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Hey all,

I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.

From what I've read in this thread, I'm on the fence about an aftermarket skid plate. If I'm riding gravel or dirt roads with only the occasional log jump (no rock gardens), is the stock plastic thing sufficient? Or am I begging for trouble? I've also been considering a radiator brace, but I'm not sure how necessary it is on this bike. I'm not a racer but I've flopped over once or twice on logs on my WRR and I was glad to have the rad guard, which also functions as a lateral brace.

I'm definitely getting aux lights, but the dealer doesn't carry any - I'm thinking I'll do what BigDog did and mount some Moto Mondos to the turn signal bracket myself.

I heard the rear brake is like butter. I'll definitely be putting on a brake snake as soon as I can.

Do engine crash bars make any sense on this bike whatsoever? They wouldn't on my WRR.

The dealer assured me the 2014 stock fueling settings are great as long as the bike gets its 15 minute ECU reset.

Am I missing anything?
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:16 PM   #15914
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Hey all,

I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.

From what I've read in this thread, I'm on the fence about an aftermarket skid plate. If I'm riding gravel or dirt roads with only the occasional log jump (no rock gardens), is the stock plastic thing sufficient? Or am I begging for trouble? I've also been considering a radiator brace, but I'm not sure how necessary it is on this bike. I'm not a racer but I've flopped over once or twice on logs on my WRR and I was glad to have the rad guard, which also functions as a lateral brace.

I'm definitely getting aux lights, but the dealer doesn't carry any - I'm thinking I'll do what BigDog did and mount some Moto Mondos to the turn signal bracket myself.

I heard the rear brake is like butter. I'll definitely be putting on a brake snake as soon as I can.

Do engine crash bars make any sense on this bike whatsoever? They wouldn't on my WRR.

The dealer assured me the 2014 stock fueling settings are great as long as the bike gets its 15 minute ECU reset.

Am I missing anything?
If your dealer is giving a 15% discount I would get the Akro can and Evo1 lid and get the dealer to put the Akro map on.
The '14 cannot be home tuned with TuneECU you must go to the stealer

There was a nice cheap fix a few pages back for the rear brake pedel if you don't want to get an upgrade.

You should get Rally Raid tank bolts top and bottom.

A draw back of the plastic engine guard is it doesn't protect the rear brake cylinder (better check if it's in the same position on the '14 - it may be in a better position now). It's also not flat which make putting on a stand a pain.

Heated grips? Touring screen? I have both and wouldn't be without.

Get a CACycleworks fuel pump.
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Old 05-10-2014, 03:22 PM   #15915
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I'm picking up my '14 690 Enduro R on the 20th. The dealer has offered me a 15% discount and free installation on any accessories I buy with the bike, so I'm looking for suggestions.
Am I missing anything?
Howdy,

You haven't been too specific on your intended uses other than the gravel roads, no rock gardens/jump the occasional log bit. Are you going to be commuting long distances, have to drive slab to get to your gravel roads, will you be doing weekend or longer trips with luggage/camping gear? Just doing a little paved road/gravel road near your home?

I saw your question posted up in one of threads before(this one?) a little while ago--with no responses. So I figure if you give us more detail on intended use--and maybe some idea of what the dealer can order (cause a lot of the stuff people usually just order directly off of the manufacturer i.e. Rally Raid UK or Highway Dirt Bikes) that the dealer won't slap a big middle man up charge on for you--they of course have to make money too.

My 2 cents based on what you asked and have said would be as follows.

I would upgrade the skid plate.

If you are planning on carrying any luggage on the back I would upgrade the upper and lower tank bolts.

Brake snake is a good idea.

Make sure they do the recall/rear brake lever loctiting/re-torquing thing.

I would add the metal or carbon silicone on case protectors.

I would very highly recommend adding the peripheral radiator brace, and do the zip tie in place mod.

There are a enormous amount of modifications and farkles you can do with this bike--but I would start with those.
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