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Old 05-21-2014, 12:13 PM   #16141
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I would assume ambient temperature was fairly high during your rally but I could be wrong. I won't argue with someones direct experience that would be silly... but hey this is the internet about 70% of its content is arguing about other peoples experience.

Giant well meaning radiator guards can have a big impact which could be why some of us see dramatic differences in temps under similar conditions. Some folks also don't look at their radiator closely especially from the back side and don't realize that half of it is full of mud they didn't get cleaned out from the last ride. (Seth I know this isn't you)

Another contributor to engine temp is how lean the system is running. Mine is fairly rich right now as a I'm trying some different maps with more fuel added to the mix and it runs a bit cooler.

Fuel quality can also be a factor in temperature I've observed noticeable albeit small differences under the same conditions on the same day running say 87 vs 91 octane, not just with the 690 but with a few other bikes as well.

As long as no one's bike is hitting the top of the gauge and blinking the temp light I'd not be too concerned either way.
Yeah, think it is a more a function of fuelling in my case. I run a Vortex, pretty rich.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:15 PM   #16142
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At 100 mph in Australia I dont think my temp ever dropped below 10 bars. I never spent any time looking at the gage though.
I saw the video you posted. It looked to me you were watching the gauge the whole time.
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Old 05-21-2014, 12:56 PM   #16143
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I saw the video you posted. It looked to me you were watching the gauge the whole time.
There was one section that was very tight with shrubs and trees where I was doing about 90 mph and i glanced to the roadbook for a second...ran right through the side of a shrub as i drifted about a foot to the right...it didnt hurt but it pretty much exploded and filled my helmet and bike with nice fragrant sage like smell.
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:45 PM   #16144
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I'm not trying to start the "oil debate here".

I have always used 10w60 synthetic. I now have 105,000 km on the bike. I have used Motorex, Motul, Liqui Moly and Agip. A shop here in Kuala Lumpur has Elf full synthetic 10w60 from France. Should be ok right? Has anyone used this? Motul is my #1 choice but I was having trouble finding it... maybe i like the way it smells
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As long as the oil is JASO T903 MA 10w60 or 10w50 fully synth you should be fine.

Is it this one you prefer?
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:10 PM   #16145
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Haha there is an answer to the chicken and egg question. I'd say the rad fluid is more efficient in reducing temperatures resulting in the engine running cooler. I'm sure someone can talk as nauseum about thermal dynamics but in the end the temp gauge sits one bar lower and my fan doesn't come on as often.

It could be that I no longer put any oil in the bike.

I was asking because the engine ice is based on propylene glycol, which in most cases is inferior to regular ethylene glycol when it comes to heat transfer.
So while the cooling liquid is a bit cooler, the engine is actually running hotter.

My personal point of view is that it's just snake oil, but I'm not going to argue any further about that
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:27 PM   #16146
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I was asking because the engine ice is based on propylene glycol, which in most cases is inferior to regular ethylene glycol when it comes to heat transfer.
So while the cooling liquid is a bit cooler, the engine is actually running hotter.

My personal point of view is that it's just snake oil, but I'm not going to argue any further about that
Ah, apologies I'm not versed in the pro/con of the stuff and missed your point Nice to know, I'll have to do some R&D.

So, I can report the rad fluid is indicating it is cooler....
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:59 PM   #16147
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Am I missing a screw here?


pookguy88 screwed with this post 05-21-2014 at 04:08 PM
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:00 PM   #16148
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Am I missing a screw here?
Nope.
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:07 PM   #16149
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Nope.
why the empty screw hole then?
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:10 PM   #16150
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why the empty screw hole then?
To mess with you.


I would love to know what it is for as well...
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:12 PM   #16151
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why the empty screw hole then?
It makes riding the new 2014 a hole-y experience.
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:19 PM   #16152
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new model year, new hole(s)?
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Old 05-21-2014, 05:21 PM   #16153
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My 2011 has the same vacant hole. I think it's where the tool kit goes. Or maybe just a spare bolt. Lol
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:18 PM   #16154
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It's where the mud goes.
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Old 05-21-2014, 06:44 PM   #16155
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Fan Relay / 2012 Enduro R

Can someone help me out and tell me which of the three relays controls the radiator fan?

My fan is not working. I checked the fuse and it looked fine. I replaced it anyway and still nothing. I'm trying to figure it out so I thought jumping the pins on the relay would let me know if the fan is working.

If anyone has some other thoughts on what might be the issue, let me know.
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