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Old 04-19-2012, 09:58 PM   #2716
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Yea low fuel light was on for quite a while...


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I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?eb3go4

also...fuel can shuttle back and forth between the tanks. you might double check that fuel is flowing smoothly from the adapter on the bottom of your stock tank
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:47 AM   #2717
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Anyone else have trouble with battery operated gps , works fine on my other bikes but the vibes on the 690 must shut it down- also speed wobble coming onto a motorway on ramp at about a 100k's under power I have had to install a scotts damper and today had to turn the dial up as it slightly happened again
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:18 AM   #2718
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Anyone else have trouble with battery operated gps , works fine on my other bikes but the vibes on the 690 must shut it down- also speed wobble coming onto a motorway on ramp at about a 100k's under power I have had to install a scotts damper and today had to turn the dial up as it slightly happened again
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No idea which GPS you have but this is a common problem with vibey thumpers that are driven off road.

Try sticking some foam ear plugs between cover and battery to lock it in place.
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:28 AM   #2719
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Thanks - great idea
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:59 AM   #2720
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Battery question.

When I hit the starter It turns over one chug, delays a half second, then cranks and starts.
This seems like a recent developement.
I think it does it when warm and cold.

voltage test 12.7 after sitting over night, 14 at idle.


Is my battery weak?
Is my starter weak?
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:06 AM   #2721
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Battery question.

When I hit the starter It turns over one chug, delays a half second, then cranks and starts.
This seems like a recent developement.
I think it does it when warm and cold.

Is my battery weak?
clean the connections and see if it goes away. Could be a weak battery or failing cell - but you have to rule out the possibles with the easiest one first.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:35 AM   #2722
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clean the connections and see if it goes away. Could be a weak battery or failing cell - but you have to rule out the possibles with the easiest one first.
Looking for bat voltages and found this on another KTM forum

"I had the same problem with my 2009 model. It ended up that the compression release spring was not attached to the compression release. It was many trips before the dealer determined this issue, even though I suggested that the compression release might be the issue from the start (I'm not a mechanic). The kek kek sound I heard was the starter going out because it was not designed to turn over the engine under full compression."

Could it be a compression release spring?

Just found this at the other site

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I have a starting issue and wanted to know if you guys have experienced it.

When the bike is warmed up or cold, it will (sometimes) barely turn over, like the battery is dead. Then always on the second try, it fires up, like nothing was ever wrong.

I took it too the dealer which btw are the best I have ever worked with (Commonwealth Motorcycles located in Louisville, KY). They changed the battery, ran multiple tests and phoned KTM and nothing, the bike is perfect from that perspective. They did get it to happen 5 times while it was in the shop. However about every 3rd to 4th time I try to start it, it will just barely turn over. Once again, it ALWAYS starts on the second try, like nothing is wrong.

Commonwealth thinks the bike is at top dead center when this happens which does not open the compression release. It does sound possible to me. They phoned two of their customers with the 690 SM (basically same motor/transmission) and they said the motor sometimes did not start on the first attempt with them either but I could not pin down if were talking about the same thing.

Has anybody experienced this or should I ask for a new starter?

Many, many thanks for any answers you can give me on this. Outside of this one issue, this is the most fun bike I have ever ridden. Deals Gap hear I come.



Anyone here have similar experience?
My 2010 is not the only one.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:06 AM   #2723
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No 02 correction would be my guess and of course your right hand is the best control of mileage. If you're in the torque map, ride the mid range and use steady throttle. It's the stabbing of the throttle that gets you, like an acell pump on a carbie. I ride a gear higher on my SE and just steady throttle. keeps the chassis stable and the fuel economy is great, 35-40. I think it's natural to use the performance map when you selected, by riding with equal enthusiasm
Correct on both counts. It's just a lot of fun cracking the throttle with that light front end.
I'm doing a street ride today. I'll exhibit some control and see what happens.
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:50 AM   #2724
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I have a stock 950 Speedo if anyone wants to give that a try.
The stock 950 speedo for an SE and the trip master switch that fits (same as for EXC bikes) makes you increase and decrease the trip2 values with tenths. Unfortunatly you can't do the reset from the switch. That must be done by stretching forward to the speedo itself. All other things not possible with the switch. I used this setup for two years.
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:00 AM   #2725
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Hey Guys, I'm thinking I really need to add a 690 to the stable. I'm hoping the 690 will be a modern day XR650R.

If you know anyone selling one, please let me know.

I also put an add in the classified: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782737

Thanks again ADV
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:01 AM   #2726
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Battery question.

When I hit the starter It turns over one chug, delays a half second, then cranks and starts.
This seems like a recent developement.
I think it does it when warm and cold.

voltage test 12.7 after sitting over night, 14 at idle.


Is my battery weak?
Is my starter weak?
Mine has been doing the same thing. NEVER did it before the dealer put in a new head gasket. I suspect the decomp spring as well....
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:44 PM   #2727
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Hey Guys, I'm thinking I really need to add a 690 to the stable. I'm hoping the 690 will be a modern day XR650R.

If you know anyone selling one, please let me know.

I also put an add in the classified: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=782737

Thanks again ADV
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You better not sell this one (once you find it.) The 950 is still doin' good. I'm almost done with its second down-to-frame recreation.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:29 PM   #2728
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Mine has been doing the same thing. NEVER did it before the dealer put in a new head gasket. I suspect the decomp spring as well....
Mine has been doing it since brand new. The engine just needs to bump past tdc sometimes so my impression is that it's a positioning issue and not a fault of the spring. I'll know in 2000 more miles when I do the valve adjust.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:00 PM   #2729
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Mine has been doing it since brand new. The engine just needs to bump past tdc sometimes so my impression is that it's a positioning issue and not a fault of the spring. I'll know in 2000 more miles when I do the valve adjust.

Mine NEVER did it in the first 23k ish miles.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #2730
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Correct on both counts. It's just a lot of fun cracking the throttle with that light front end.
I'm doing a street ride today. I'll exhibit some control and see what happens.
I fired my 690 up the other day and took it for a spin.... What a wheelie machine The Vortex rocks the house compared to the stock abortion.
It's like going from a CV carb to an FCR carb. Will you be doing the Ravena ride this year?
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