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Old 05-30-2012, 08:23 PM   #3616
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I got 11000 miles on the original fuel pump. I figured I had pushed my luck far enough and broke down for some maintenance. New OEM fuel pump assembly that I got for cheap. Inline purolator filter. Threw a hand full of injectors in the wife's jewelry cleaner. Bike idles and runs like new. Bring on another 11k!
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:50 AM   #3617
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I used the standard map on the Vortex after one of the power maps I used first had me around 38 mpg.Not good. When I set it on the standard map I got 39 mpg. WTF. I left the O2 lo,mid,hi set in the neutral position 5. Then I figured if the mileage is going to suck why not use a power map so I set it to map 1. Nice power but still way too rich. Then I messed with the O2 settings and brought them all down to 3. Still has great power and just got home from a loooooong ride and got 45+ mpg. On my best day stock ecu I got 48+. I found the happy medium I think, runs great.


I'll dig it out tomorrow and post it up for you. It might be different though, the last update was spring 2012 I believe and they tweaked a few things.


I never ran the stock exhaust long enough to get a base reading. FMF Q4 installed with stock map I never got quite to 50 mpg.
Thanks Barman , I`m about to go & turn all mine down to 3 .
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Old 05-31-2012, 04:12 AM   #3618
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Is there any reason to be on the off road map with a slip-on and a air filter?

I put on the Rally Raid filter set-up and the FMF Q4 Ti and my bike ran tits on the stock map.
My dealer put in the 'off road' map (on my '12) and the bike would not stay running at the dealer and pops on decel now...
...I was hoping for better than tits. Now its sloppy saggy tits.
My FMF pipe came with literature stating that there is no need to change maps with their slip-on.
akra map not meant for hi flow filter and is lean anyway so tune ecu and richen the bottom and advance ign or better yet vortex for its plug and play
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:47 AM   #3619
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akra map not meant for hi flow filter and is lean anyway so tune ecu and richen the bottom and advance ign or better yet vortex for its plug and play
How about evo1 map

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Old 05-31-2012, 05:53 AM   #3620
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Thanks Barman , I`m about to go & turn all mine down to 3 .
Have you tried turning it up to 11
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Old 05-31-2012, 06:24 AM   #3621
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Thanks Barman , I`m about to go & turn all mine down to 3 .
On the Vortex instructions that came with the ECU, 3 is the lowest setting they recommend without a pro tune. I'm still trying to justify the $$ to put a single cylinder enduro on the dyno for a proper tune.
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:49 AM   #3622
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I am curious about all the tuning people are trying to do. When Uller helped me service my bike, he was showing me all these things we can do to tune the FI. I opted not to because it runs good for me. I have the stock map with a Uni filter and FMF Q4. My lowest MPG was 45 in LA traffic. My highest was 57. I normally get 50 mpg. Loaded.

So hearing people talk about 40 mpg makes me cringe. There seems to be more then enough power.. no?
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Old 05-31-2012, 09:57 AM   #3623
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I've had full tanks net 28mpg on several occasions in 1st/2nd gear trails. 38mpg is pretty standard for me riding dual sport (50% dirt, 50% road.) If I actually ride like a law obiding citizen and stay on the highway, 46mpg is it. How and where you ride makes a huge impact on economy.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:02 AM   #3624
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It may be part of the SAS wiring, as I removed it and did the canisterectomy, but looking at the parts I removed I don't see it. I'll look again.

It's a '10 and the reason it's so clean is that it had an end to end service this winter after two weeks in Baja and a week in Colorado..
Thanks to all who chimed in, Barman was right, it was the lambda sensor. Doh!
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:36 AM   #3625
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I am curious about all the tuning people are trying to do. When Uller helped me service my bike, he was showing me all these things we can do to tune the FI. I opted not to because it runs good for me. I have the stock map with a Uni filter and FMF Q4. My lowest MPG was 45 in LA traffic. My highest was 57. I normally get 50 mpg. Loaded.

So hearing people talk about 40 mpg makes me cringe. There seems to be more then enough power.. no?
it's a tradeoff - getting 57 mpg is nice but you dont get the same power and torks without adding fuel to go along with the extra air. I could live with less power but i hate how a lean bike feels and how hot it gets.
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Old 05-31-2012, 11:48 AM   #3626
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Have you tried turning it up to 11
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:30 PM   #3627
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it's a tradeoff - getting 57 mpg is nice but you dont get the same power and torks without adding fuel to go along with the extra air. I could live with less power but i hate how a lean bike feels and how hot it gets.
so how does a lean bike feel...exactly?
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:47 PM   #3628
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akra map not meant for hi flow filter and is lean anyway so tune ecu and richen the bottom and advance ign or better yet vortex for its plug and play
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I am curious about all the tuning people are trying to do. When Uller helped me service my bike, he was showing me all these things we can do to tune the FI. I opted not to because it runs good for me. I have the stock map with a Uni filter and FMF Q4. My lowest MPG was 45 in LA traffic. My highest was 57. I normally get 50 mpg. Loaded.

So hearing people talk about 40 mpg makes me cringe. There seems to be more then enough power.. no?
Great info. I am going to run my bike on the akro for a week or so and see how it runs.
It seemed wonderful with the stock map and maybe just so-so on the akro map. I need more time with it.
I am thinking to carry my infra red heat gun & measure temps on the exhaust can and see if there is any heat difference at the muffler end.
With the stock map, FMF Q4 can & RR air filter, clutchless power wheelies in 3rd were amazingly easy.
I haven't had a chance yet to test my power wheelies yet on the akro map...
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Old 05-31-2012, 12:56 PM   #3629
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so how does a lean bike feel...exactly?
if you have to ask....
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Old 05-31-2012, 01:00 PM   #3630
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so how does a lean bike feel...exactly?
Lean runs hotter and runs cleaner (smog wise). Not always running better.
A richer bike can run cooler and have more power at the expense of 'clean air' (smog wise).
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