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Old 06-08-2012, 06:29 AM   #3721
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Idling your 690 for 15 minutes will do nothing but heat it up unless the ecu has been instructed (via tune ecu or the XC-4 tool) to reset adaptations.
wtf..so when you put a different can on the bike the 15 min idle reset does nothing? Geez...I'm confused...(and like 300 miles from any dealers...)guess i didn't really notice any difference come to think of it...
I was also going to put a foam filter in...? so...it's looking like I will need to make a 600 mile round trip to a dealer...I don't have any "tune ecu or XC-4 tool"...don't know where to get them...don't know how to use them...and not sure if I want to spend more money...

Could someone pm me on what I need to do to get my head out of my ass on this?
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:04 AM   #3722
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is there a setting in TuneECU to tell it to reset adaptations or does it automatically push the instructions when uploading a new tune?
If you upload new maps (FI / EPT) it will automatically look for new adaptations. Otherwise yes, there is a function in Tune Ecu to reset them.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:17 AM   #3723
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wtf..so when you put a different can on the bike the 15 min idle reset does nothing?
Well, it warms up the packing nice and even, just as the muffler mfg's want it done.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:04 AM   #3724
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I have this posted over on SMJ, but I thought it might fit well here too.
Here is a list I've compiled so far for what I think new 690 owners should do to their bikes:

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1. Protect your investment, protect your bike. Buy sliders (Supermoto) real aluminum Handguards (I prefer Cyrca or Acerbis) and an aliuminum skid plate (I bought the Flatland Racing one, cheaper and heavy duty) WHEN you crash, you will minimize the damage to the bike and hopefully be able to pick it up and keep riding
2a. Drop the nuclear powered boat anchor of an exhaust. It will melt your turn signal and possibly your numberplate. I chose the FMF Q4 because of price and it is quiet at idle and cruising but still barks when pushed.
2b. Time for a remap. The two most popular ways to do this are DIY with TuneECU and buy a cable ($70) or buy a drop in Vortex ECU ($800). If you are cheap or you like to be involved in the tuning of your bike, go the TuneECU route. If you just want the right mapping and go ride, get the Vortex.
3a. (supermoto only)Skip the whole drop in filter or Evo1 step to save money. Go right to a Pod filter; either the EVO 2 filter or the K&N RU1750. Don't forget to remap for the added air into the system.
3b. Remove the SAS and canister. Instructions are posted in the Advrider "code Orange" thread. Don't forget to remap to turn off the SAS.

Ride!!

Other fixes and notes:
4.The hydraulic cam chain tensioners (CCT) have some problems and can overtighten the chain in certain situations (i.e. cold starts) If you are concerned about this you can buy a Rally Raid Manual Cam Chain Tensioner
5. Take off the mickey mouse mirrors. I use CRG hindsight mirrors mounted inside of the grips to keep them safe WHEN I crash :
6. Replace the upper gas tank bolts. There have been a few accounts of the bolts shearing and causing a really bad situation (the tank folds down into the moving tire!). Rally Raid sells the replacements or you can modify the stock bolts to act as a spacer for Grade 8 bolts
7. Go down one tooth on the countershaft sprocket for a little more punch. Stock these things are geared a little high. Not bad if you're using it for highway duty but geared way too high for kart tracks. (SMC stock is 16/42, E is 15/45)
8. The gas cap has been known to leak during extended wheelies . Try to take apart the mounting plate and clean up the seal or add a gasoline safe sealant. most of the time this will fix the issue. You can buy a screw on cap conversion (MX style) if that is what you prefer.
9. Set the race sag and static sag for your weight (free). This will make sure that the bike geometry will be correct. If you want to take this one step further you can get the suspension tuned by a shop.
10a. Clean your injector. When they get grit in them it can make the bike more prone to stall on decel. There are some videos on youtube about cleaning injectors but to really get them clean you need to take it to a shop. The injector is easy to remove and get out if you've done #3a
10b. Add a Napa 3095 fuel filter ($4) in place of the stock fuel line quick disconnect. This will keep the grit out of the newly cleaned injector. Change the filter every couple oil changes.
11.Zip tie the fuel line away from the bolt head or else it will rub a hole in it and leave you stranded. My fuel line was about half worn through when I checked it.
12. Remove the bolts in the radiator shroud and replace them with zip ties. In certain crashes the bolts will pull out the brass inserts in the radiator causing it to leak and leaving you stranded.

13. The overflow hose from the rad can sometimes rub on the nearby bracket & needs to be either wrapped or held away. (Thanks FriedDuck)
14. The radiator fan can rub on the radiator (it's too close.) Either add a piece of weather stripping or add some washers to the screw used to mount the fan (at the top) to hold it off the rad a bit. (Thanks FriedDuck)
If you guys can think of anything to add, let me know and I'll keep updating the list

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Old 06-08-2012, 02:04 PM   #3725
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Axle Sliders for Dual Sports?

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1. Protect your investment, protect your bike. Buy sliders (Supermoto)



Here is something I’ve mused over for quite awhile that I’m hoping to get some informed opinions from all y’all on. I’ve seen the sliders offered for 690s that fit on various places such as the muffler http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5797/612/ , foot pegs http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-adventure-950-supermoto-690-supermoto-690-enduro-690-duke-690-smc-footpeg-sliders, handlebar ends http://www.ktmtwins.com/rg-ktm-690-supermoto-duke-bar-slider , frame placements http://www.ktmtwins.com/rg-ktm-690-smc-enduro-frame-protection and front http://www.ktmtwins.com/r-g-ktm-690-enduro-fork-sliders and rearhttp://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Swingarm_Protectors/KTM/690_SM/SP0022BK.aspx axle bobbins/skateboard wheel looking thingies.

I’ve only ever seen them placed on a supermoto style bike, not a dual sport. The first few placements I mentioned would seem to have no impact off road, but would putting *axle* sliders on mess you up off road somehow? Would the slight extra width or stickiness compared to metal cause you to hang up on stuff, let’s say while trying to traverse a rock garden and be more of a liability off road, than it would be a benefit to preserve your bike if dropped at speed on pavement? Does anyone here have axle sliders mounted on your dual sport, or have you seen them on a bike that is used off road? Do the axle sliders do much to help protect a dual sport when crashed on pavement?


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Old 06-08-2012, 02:21 PM   #3726
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emissions label recall

So yesterday I received a notice from KTM North America stating that their is a recall on the emissions label on my bike. No parts, just the sticker. I found this part interesting:

"In order to ensure your full protection under the emission warranty made applicable to your vehicle by state and federal law, and your right to participate in future recalls, it is recommended that you have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible. Failure to do so could legally be determined to be lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle."

"uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inabilty to renew your California vehicle registration"

So basically they want me to drive several hours to my nearest dealer to have their service dept put a fucking sticker on my bike? They say that it is voluntary yet clearly state that I cannot register my bike without doing it? Couldn't they just send me the damn sticker with a "how-to" on installing it? I'm definately upset that I'm basically being required to spend ~$100 in gas just to have a sticker put on "free of charge"

Did anyone else get this letter or is it just another CA only deal?
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Old 06-08-2012, 03:17 PM   #3727
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So yesterday I received a notice from KTM North America stating that their is a recall on the emissions label on my bike. No parts, just the sticker. I found this part interesting:

"In order to ensure your full protection under the emission warranty made applicable to your vehicle by state and federal law, and your right to participate in future recalls, it is recommended that you have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible. Failure to do so could legally be determined to be lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle."

"uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inabilty to renew your California vehicle registration"

So basically they want me to drive several hours to my nearest dealer to have their service dept put a fucking sticker on my bike? They say that it is voluntary yet clearly state that I cannot register my bike without doing it? Couldn't they just send me the damn sticker with a "how-to" on installing it? I'm definately upset that I'm basically being required to spend ~$100 in gas just to have a sticker put on "free of charge"

Did anyone else get this letter or is it just another CA only deal?
you could ring your dealer and ask him to post the sticker to you
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:18 PM   #3728
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So yesterday I received a notice from KTM North America stating that their is a recall on the emissions label on my bike. No parts, just the sticker. I found this part interesting:

"In order to ensure your full protection under the emission warranty made applicable to your vehicle by state and federal law, and your right to participate in future recalls, it is recommended that you have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible. Failure to do so could legally be determined to be lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle."

"uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inabilty to renew your California vehicle registration"

So basically they want me to drive several hours to my nearest dealer to have their service dept put a fucking sticker on my bike? They say that it is voluntary yet clearly state that I cannot register my bike without doing it? Couldn't they just send me the damn sticker with a "how-to" on installing it? I'm definately upset that I'm basically being required to spend ~$100 in gas just to have a sticker put on "free of charge"

Did anyone else get this letter or is it just another CA only deal?
I got one too, and I'm in Washington State. Same letter, saying I can't register my bike in CA.
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Old 06-08-2012, 04:38 PM   #3729
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you could ring your dealer and ask him to post the sticker to you

Normally that would be a logical way to do it, but my "local" dealer and I are far from being on good terms... something to do with them having my bike for 4+ months just to tell me that they weren't sure what was wrong (eventually fixed by KTM corporate mechanic) and me not being happy about it. Needless to say, they won't be doing me any favors anytime soon.
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:59 PM   #3730
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Low compression

So, received my bike 2 days ago. It had a new impeller/seals/gaskets installed along with 5-6 oil changes/flushes.

I ride it out last night for 100km and note the engine seems weak, really weak off throttle. I figure a 15m relearn and throttle calibration might sort it out. No change.

Today I decide after a work commute & stalling the engine a dozen times something is a miss. I performed a compression test with my 30yr old Snap-on tester and noted 75psi hot. That can't be right. I went out and bought a new compression tester, same result; less actually - 70psi. I plugged the spark plug hole with my finger and it wouldn't even blow it out.

I'm going to run the same test on a friends '12 just to see if my readings are off the wall. Sheer physics tells me I should be reading a max of 173psi and a realistic 165ish.

The engine is proper f*#&e% I figure. I want nothing to do with it!



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Update: It was indeed the seal. They're saying the engine sounds fine so they're going to flush and button it up and it's left to me to deal direct with KTM Canada for warranty coverage beyond the initial 12mos. A real helpful bunch
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:03 PM   #3731
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Finally got around to getting my radiator off yesterday to get the leak fixed. Looks like I must have smashed it into something the last time I dumped it on that side. The rad shop left a message for me today that it's ready.

Anyway, even though I shimmed the upper shroud mount AND put silicon tubing on the shroud edge facing the rad, it's still managed to start wearing into the damn rad.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:57 PM   #3732
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Normally that would be a logical way to do it, but my "local" dealer and I are far from being on good terms... something to do with them having my bike for 4+ months just to tell me that they weren't sure what was wrong (eventually fixed by KTM corporate mechanic) and me not being happy about it. Needless to say, they won't be doing me any favors anytime soon.
I received a recall sticker also and I am in Utah. Your dealer sounds like they wouldn't know how to install the sticker and would have to fly in the corporate mechanic to install it too.
Why don't they recall something worth recalling such as the left rear T/S light that melts, or the fuel tank that melts, or the exhaust system that melts it all, or the fuel cap that leaks. This is crazy.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:17 PM   #3733
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So yesterday I received a notice from KTM North America stating that their is a recall on the emissions label on my bike. No parts, just the sticker. I found this part interesting:

"In order to ensure your full protection under the emission warranty made applicable to your vehicle by state and federal law, and your right to participate in future recalls, it is recommended that you have your vehicle serviced as soon as possible. Failure to do so could legally be determined to be lack of proper maintenance of your vehicle."

"uncorrected emission label recalls will result in the inabilty to renew your California vehicle registration"

So basically they want me to drive several hours to my nearest dealer to have their service dept put a fucking sticker on my bike? They say that it is voluntary yet clearly state that I cannot register my bike without doing it? Couldn't they just send me the damn sticker with a "how-to" on installing it? I'm definately upset that I'm basically being required to spend ~$100 in gas just to have a sticker put on "free of charge"

Did anyone else get this letter or is it just another CA only deal?
Oh god. I can't wait. I bought my bike in California

I will have to laminate it and paste it on the bike!
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Old 06-08-2012, 10:01 PM   #3734
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Proper Riding Posture When Being Towed

When your 690 breaks down, get another one to tow ya !!

But be sure to pay attention to proper riding posture:

http://bobzilla.smugmug.com/Motorcyc...f5Dps&lb=1&s=A


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Old 06-09-2012, 03:44 AM   #3735
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OEM fuel filter

Can someone confirm that this is the OEM fuel filter for the 690R?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KTM-690-S...item2a1e901a12
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