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Old 06-12-2012, 08:58 AM   #3856
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fan problems

You could use a jumper wire to see if the fan cuts on if so then you know it is in the switch and not the wiring.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:01 AM   #3857
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it is probably switching the ground . i know that is the case on the 640

you want to get continuity across the contacts when the thermostat is working.
Damnit Bobzilla. Quit being right all the time!

I just looked at the schematic. The thermal switch is on the ground lead not the hot. A jumper across the 2 prongs while the bike is turned on should turn on the fan. If it does, your thermo switch is bad. If not, you have a wiring problem. In which case you could pick up a ground basically anywhere.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:49 AM   #3858
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Old 06-12-2012, 10:57 AM   #3859
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Stalling....

Stalling issues sucks...Thought it was just me...nope...Idling or close to it in first gear...kind of embarrassing if you are in a slow slight turn & someone is watching and you have to jab a foot down to keep from falling when it stalls out of nowhere...

I did put on a fmf powercore...waiting to get a foam filter on before hauling/riding 300-350 miles to dealer for reset and or map...

it did this some while bone stock too...but seems to be more relevant now..
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:09 AM   #3860
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Damnit Bobzilla. Quit being right all the time!

I just looked at the schematic. The thermal switch is on the ground lead not the hot. A jumper across the 2 prongs while the bike is turned on should turn on the fan. If it does, your thermo switch is bad. If not, you have a wiring problem. In which case you could pick up a ground basically anywhere.
Ok tried it and fan comes on. I have a new 88 degree thermo switch ordered. I forgot about the wires that go to the fan and didn't think about one of them could be the hot. It makes since now. I really appreciate all the help.
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:27 AM   #3861
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Giant loop and KTM690

I went to this epic Roaming Rally in Canada...we needed to carry our stuff with us for the whole ride....i chose the giant loop which did a great job being stuck on to the bike through all the tech stuff...

but my biggest problem/complain was with the gaint loop taking up most of the space on the rear seat, i couldnt sit as far as i would like and my toes which are usually on the rear brake was shifted towards more of the rear part of the feet...so every time i had to get on the rear brake i would lock it up because i never could get the feel of it with the heel of the boot....

any suggestion to move the giant loop further back...or some other luggage system that would remove this problem
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:27 AM   #3862
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I had front wheel bounce from my ex 800xc that had uhd tubes fitted -im thinking they throw it outa whack- I have to have my scotts turned right up for road and three clicks from off for dirt to combat it
I use Bridgestone UHD tubes with tube type Slime....and balance the wheel before putting in the Slime. No wobbles, tank slappers, or other forms of wheel problems. I do not use rim locks ...

I like Slime as it deals with punctures on the go and lets me fix flats at a time/place more convenient to me....usually.

I don't use less than 16 lbs in the front tire on the 690....and up to 24 lbs if slabbing very far.

I use 12-14 lbs on the 450 front and 10-12 rear as I use a Pirelli MT43 trials tire on 450 rear wheel.

I don't consider the 690 to be the bike of choice for tight/steep single track....but do that sometimes anyway
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:59 AM   #3863
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Stalling issues sucks...Thought it was just me...nope...Idling or close to it in first gear...kind of embarrassing if you are in a slow slight turn &
yea my bike would stall until i had the akra map put on, it is embarrassing especially if it happens on steep loose single track and you lose momentum
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:13 PM   #3864
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My 11 stalls in the tight stuff all the time! It's usually as I'm slowing/clutching to make a water crossing!
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:27 PM   #3865
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My 11 stalls in the tight stuff all the time! It's usually as I'm slowing/clutching to make a water crossing!
That's exactly when mine stalls too, when I'm clutching or slowing down...that's how I know it's not me just killing it lol!
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:28 PM   #3866
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I still get a stall now and then even with the Vortex ECU. I think part of the problem is just a light flywheel. With stock gearing in some technical uphill rocky stuff I am having to slip the clutch a lot, and am on and off the gas all the time, and I think that with the wrong combo of getting off the gas at low revs when 1st gear is too high can cause a stall.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:32 PM   #3867
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I still get a stall now and then even with the Vortex ECU. I think part of the problem is just a light flywheel. With stock gearing in some technical uphill rocky stuff I am having to slip the clutch a lot, and am on and off the gas all the time, and I think that with the wrong combo of getting off the gas at low revs when 1st gear is too high can cause a stall.
I don't think it's a flywheel problem... Mine has stalled with the clutch pulled in coasting...
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:40 PM   #3868
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I don't think it's a flywheel problem... Mine has stalled with the clutch pulled in coasting...
I agree that there are fueling issues that cause most of the stalls, but in the particular situation I was in it felt more like a light flywheel, big thumper, combined with too high gearing problem. That is the only situation I have ever had any stalls with the Vortex.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:37 PM   #3869
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As I`m currently replacing shock linkage bearings , I keep whining to myself " Why didn`t they make the 690 a PDS ? "
My money is on the fact that the 690 is expected to take a wider range of loads, 690 can take pillion and luggage, PDS is only on solo bikes. PDS is sensitive to spring rate and preload, so less suited to a general bike. That's my guess on the reason anyway.
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Old 06-12-2012, 03:39 PM   #3870
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That's exactly when mine stalls too, when I'm clutching or slowing down...that's how I know it's not me just killing it lol!
I keep telling my riding buddies 'it's not me! I really can ride a moto!'
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