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Old 07-12-2012, 02:43 PM   #4471
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:15 PM   #4472
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Ive had enough of the stupid lantana catching side panel v section at the front of the bike -how stupid nearly ripped them of on numurous ocasions on the weekend-so i have drilled a hole in the top and bottom and zip tied the two together so the lantana will hit the zip tie and deflect off {hopefully}
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:44 PM   #4473
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Ive had enough of the stupid lantana catching side panel v section at the front of the bike -how stupid nearly ripped them of on numurous ocasions on the weekend-so i have drilled a hole in the top and bottom and zip tied the two together so the lantana will hit the zip tie and deflect off {hopefully}
Not quite sure I get the idea. But then, I'm basically a simpleton. Got any pictures?
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Old 07-12-2012, 04:59 PM   #4474
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Fuel line in tank

Hey guys,
I am replacing the fuel line in the tank. I am thinking of this stuff...
http://www.helixracingproducts.com/H...ductId=-289982

My question: Good with up to %10 alcohol. On an RTW do you think i will hit more then 10% alcohol and or ethonal?
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Old 07-12-2012, 05:32 PM   #4475
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690 Vibration

Yes the 690 is a single, and yes, it vibrates! Having said that, what have people found worked for attenuating higher frequency vibrations from the:
  • handlebars
  • footpegs
I have a Renazco seat, and don't notice vibes through my seat at all. As I get older (21,535 days), my arms and feet notice the vibes significantly more than a few years back and after a few hours, it tires me out. No, I am not gripping the bars too tightly!

On my 2009 690R I have checked motor mount bolts (ok), handlebar (ok), etc. for proper torque, and nothing unusual found. I have tried a few different grips and handlebar positions without any noticable improvement. I have also tried 3 different gloves (touring, enduro, etc) without any noticable difference.

I currently have Pivot Pegz mounted, but have not noticed any appreciable difference when swapping the stock pegs back on for a test. The stock pipe is currently mounted, but I also have a LV pipe, and did not find any major difference in vibes between the two.

I am looking at making some much longer rides in the near future so would appreciate any feedback to address the vibration issues.

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Old 07-12-2012, 05:37 PM   #4476
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Yes the 690 is a single, and yes, it vibrates! Having said that, what have people found worked for attenuating higher frequency vibrations from the:
  • handlebars
  • footpegs
I have a Renazco seat, and don't notice vibes through my seat at all. As I get older (21,535 days), my arms and feet notice the vibes significantly more than a few years back and after a few hours, it tires me out. No, I am not gripping the bars too tightly!

On my 2009 690R I have checked motor mount bolts (ok), handlebar (ok), etc. for proper torque, and nothing unusual found. I have tried a few different grips and handlebar positions without any noticable improvement. I have also tried 3 different gloves (touring, enduro, etc) without any noticable difference.

I currently have Pivot Pegz mounted, but have not noticed any appreciable difference when swapping the stock pegs back on for a test. The stock pipe is currently mounted, but I also have a LV pipe, and did not find any major difference in vibes between the two.

I am looking at making some much longer rides in the near future so would appreciate any feedback to address the vibration issues.

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Old 07-12-2012, 05:57 PM   #4477
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Yes the 690 is a single, and yes, it vibrates! Having said that, what have people found worked for attenuating higher frequency vibrations from the:
  • handlebars
  • footpegs
I have a Renazco seat, and don't notice vibes through my seat at all. As I get older (21,535 days), my arms and feet notice the vibes significantly more than a few years back and after a few hours, it tires me out. No, I am not gripping the bars too tightly!

On my 2009 690R I have checked motor mount bolts (ok), handlebar (ok), etc. for proper torque, and nothing unusual found. I have tried a few different grips and handlebar positions without any noticable improvement. I have also tried 3 different gloves (touring, enduro, etc) without any noticable difference.

I currently have Pivot Pegz mounted, but have not noticed any appreciable difference when swapping the stock pegs back on for a test. The stock pipe is currently mounted, but I also have a LV pipe, and did not find any major difference in vibes between the two.

I am looking at making some much longer rides in the near future so would appreciate any feedback to address the vibration issues.

Cheers
I found that these dramatically helped and as an added bonus the handguards can be bolted tighter to the bars and they won't rotate (as much) when you go down.
http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_...f=Th_insert_av
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:10 PM   #4478
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Hey guys,
I am replacing the fuel line in the tank. I am thinking of this stuff...
http://www.helixracingproducts.com/H...ductId=-289982

My question: Good with up to %10 alcohol. On an RTW do you think i will hit more then 10% alcohol and or ethonal?
When I was looking for hose for the inside of the tank, I learned that even though they both look the same, the inner hose material is typically different than the outer hose material. The outer hose usually isn't made to resist fuel like the inner hose is. I can't tell from the web page if that is the case with the helix hose.

I have an extra length of the submersible hose from NAPA I can send you if you would like.

As far as a direct answer to your question, I don't really know. However, I keep reading on here that the people from the USA are having issues with ethanol and people from the rest of the world aren't. My guess is that you won't find that much fuel with more than 10%.

Additionally, the major problems with the ethanol are due to inactivity and the fuel seperating out. The ethanol by itself eats hose, seals, plastic but when it stays mixed with the gasoline it isn't really that much of a problem. With you constantly being on the move and going through gas. I would think that it wouldn't be that much of an issue with your bike. I don't know. Maybe I'm just
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:24 PM   #4479
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Ride any 640 LC4 KTM and you will build a shrine to the smoothness of the 690
I couldn't agree more. I had an 02' 640 Enduro and it was downright painful to ride any distance. Killed my butt and caused my hands and feet to go numb. My 10' 690 R is infinitely better and, as the miles add up, gets even better.
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Old 07-12-2012, 06:58 PM   #4480
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You need to be sure the hose is rated for a submersable application. Both the inner and outer casing need to be fuel proof and rated for more high pressure. I have used Gates 27093 in 5/16 dia for my pump/filter upgrade. You can find it online and at NAPA/O'Rielys etc. It is spendy, more than $1 per INCH.

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Hey guys,
I am replacing the fuel line in the tank. I am thinking of this stuff...
http://www.helixracingproducts.com/H...ductId=-289982

My question: Good with up to %10 alcohol. On an RTW do you think i will hit more then 10% alcohol and or ethonal?
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:18 PM   #4481
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More Vibrations....

Kind of a funny story....

When I first got my 690 I was new to dual sporting. Prior to, I had ridden plenty of street and plenty of dirt, just not both. So, I would take the 690 to the other side of the mountains to go play instead of my truck and dirt bike. Without doing something illegal, It is pretty much mandatory to ride one of our major mountain passes to get to the fun stuff. (I have been looking for 4 years for an alternate route alas, none exist.)

This is a 4 lane and 70 mph Interstate with a ton of semi trucks and people going 80. Now, I would consider myself an aggressive, defensive driver; and by that, I mean that, I typically go between 85 and 100, weaving in and out of the cars and semi trucks, mostly staying in the far right lane because most people drive in the left....... They can't run you over if they can't catch you, right?

(I'm getting to the point)

Now, personally I haven't ever ripped a valve stem and don't want to so, I put a rimlock on the bike at the first tire change. I didn't think too much about it. But, man did the 690 vibrate like no other going 95 down I-90 with an unbalanced, rimlocked MT-21 on the rear. I just didn't know why. My hands were killing me. My feet sometimes went numb. Got a Rox anti-vibe riser.....Nothing really helped. On top of that, I would use an entire tire on just a day trip of a few hundred miles.

Finally, while riding down I-5 on my way home from work in rushour traffic something hits my left leg as I'm going about 65 to 70. Instinctively, I took my hand off the bar and caught it. I was my fancy, undermount side mirror made by Advance Performance Accessories (one side was like $125 They sure looked nice though.) The bike was vibrating so bad that the vibs fractured the mirror mount in half. About a week later the other side broke (I lost that one on the inside shoulder of the freeway. )

Moral of the story/Lessons Learned:
1. Don't use one rim lock without properly balancing your tires and/or try to maintain freeway speeds and up.
2. Don't buy those mirrors again (they will just tell you that your bike vibrates like mad, laugh at you and hang up)
3. It takes a hell of a lot of weight to even out a rim lock and valve stem all on one side of the tire.
4. Two rim locks really don't make it that hard to put the tire on like everyone says.
5. Get good at changing tires because it is a common thing with this bike.
6. Because I like to plug the companies that make good stuff and don't really advertise, I will say that the Marc Parnes Wheel Balancer I got works very, very well. I just rest it on a set of jack stands. Easy.
http://www.marcparnes.com/KTM_Motorc...l_Balancer.htm

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Old 07-12-2012, 07:47 PM   #4482
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Yes the 690 is a single, and yes, it vibrates! Having said that, what have people found worked for attenuating higher frequency vibrations from the:
  • handlebars
  • footpegs
I have a Renazco seat, and don't notice vibes through my seat at all. As I get older (21,535 days), my arms and feet notice the vibes significantly more than a few years back and after a few hours, it tires me out. No, I am not gripping the bars too tightly!

On my 2009 690R I have checked motor mount bolts (ok), handlebar (ok), etc. for proper torque, and nothing unusual found. I have tried a few different grips and handlebar positions without any noticable improvement. I have also tried 3 different gloves (touring, enduro, etc) without any noticable difference.

I currently have Pivot Pegz mounted, but have not noticed any appreciable difference when swapping the stock pegs back on for a test. The stock pipe is currently mounted, but I also have a LV pipe, and did not find any major difference in vibes between the two.

I am looking at making some much longer rides in the near future so would appreciate any feedback to address the vibration issues.

Cheers
I dont notice hardly any vibes on my 09? Maybe your setup isnt working for you. Wheel balance, tire pressures, supension, engine need some work?
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:23 PM   #4483
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Vibes

I fitted a pair of (old R6) modified bar end weights that I had on my Pegaso (got them from the bike wreckers)with my Barkbusters, and that did make a difference in reducing the bar vibes. But having said that, this is the least vibey single I have owned.
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Old 07-12-2012, 10:56 PM   #4484
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Kind of a funny story....

When I first got my 690 I was new to dual sporting. Prior to, I had ridden plenty of street and plenty of dirt, just not both. So, I would take the 690 to the other side of the mountains to go play instead of my truck and dirt bike. Without doing something illegal, It is pretty much mandatory to ride one of our major mountain passes to get to the fun stuff. (I have been looking for 4 years for an alternate route alas, none exist.)

This is a 4 lane and 70 mph Interstate with a ton of semi trucks and people going 80. Now, I would consider myself an aggressive, defensive driver; and by that, I mean that, I typically go between 85 and 100, weaving in and out of the cars and semi trucks, mostly staying in the far right lane because most people drive in the left....... They can't run you over if they can't catch you, right?

(I'm getting to the point)

Now, personally I haven't ever ripped a valve stem and don't want to so, I put a rimlock on the bike at the first tire change. I didn't think too much about it. But, man did the 690 vibrate like no other going 95 down I-90 with an unbalanced, rimlocked MT-21 on the rear. I just didn't know why. My hands were killing me. My feet sometimes went numb. Got a Rox anti-vibe riser.....Nothing really helped. On top of that, I would use an entire tire on just a day trip of a few hundred miles.

Finally, while riding down I-5 on my way home from work in rushour traffic something hits my left leg as I'm going about 65 to 70. Instinctively, I took my hand off the bar and caught it. I was my fancy, undermount side mirror made by Advance Performance Accessories (one side was like $125 They sure looked nice though.) The bike was vibrating so bad that the vibs fractured the mirror mount in half. About a week later the other side broke (I lost that one on the inside shoulder of the freeway. )

Moral of the story/Lessons Learned:
1. Don't use one rim lock without properly balancing your tires and/or try to maintain freeway speeds and up.
2. Don't buy those mirrors again (they will just tell you that your bike vibrates like mad, laugh at you and hang up)
3. It takes a hell of a lot of weight to even out a rim lock and valve stem all on one side of the tire.
4. Two rim locks really don't make it that hard to put the tire on like everyone says.
5. Get good at changing tires because it is a common thing with this bike.
6. Because I like to plug the companies that make good stuff and don't really advertise, I will say that the Marc Parnes Wheel Balancer I got works very, very well. I just rest it on a set of jack stands. Easy.
http://www.marcparnes.com/KTM_Motorc...l_Balancer.htm
I have been riding the dez, as Bobzilla says, for about 16 years now without a flat. The dez here shall mean Southern Nevada and Southern Arizona. Before that I rode in the Northwest, Seattle and east of the mountains like Uller, and prior to that in and around St. Louis, MO. I like Pirelli MT-21's (I know I am in the minority here) and Michelin Ultra Heavy Duty Tubes. Takes a lot of tape weights to balance the tires but I do it. Qualifiers: I don't slam into sharp rocks and cacti at 80 mph, I don't power through whoops at 100 mph, I don't ride up or down rocky creek beds with an angle of 70 degrees, I don't run my tires down to bald, I don't intentionally do g-outs, just by accident now and then. I know riders who rode like this for some time and they are now cripples. Bad knees, bad shoulders, bad wrists, bad ankles, broken stuff everywhere. Just what you need in your old age! In other words I am now a conservative and to many of you perhaps a boring rider. At 65 I take care of my body and the bike. I still manage to have a damn good time riding the dez exploring old gold and silver mines. I run off-road pressures of 16 psi (not exceedingly low but effective). I have to go back over 16 years to a time when I had rimlocks. So this is what works for me and my riding style, i.e. my lessons learned.
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:37 AM   #4485
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