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Old 07-24-2012, 11:47 AM   #4636
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Apparently, the sky HAS fallen on them...
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #4637
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I'm considering buying these tanks to extend the mileage on my SMC 2008. Is the install difficult? How do the tanks tie in to the rear tank? I'm assuming they "T" into the hose from the rear some how. Also, how does the extra width up front affect your position on the bike? Thanks.
Difficult to install? Depends on how mechanically inclined you are. I had an easy time. Some people want to shoot them selves.

There is a machined piece that bolts to the rear tanks where the fuel pump is that has a fitting to get the fuel from the front tanks into the rear.

The tanks did not affect my riding style or ability.
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:10 PM   #4638
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Any diagnosis and pix on the self-ventilating clutch cover?

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Just heard back from the other dealer (not where I bought the bike)...

The extended warranty is underwritten by GE not KTM, as I feared. Thier response was "if it is one day out of warranty, they "can't" honor the claim."

Read "Phew, we dodged that bullet guys, huh?"

I put in a call to the dealer where I bought the bike, hoping to get lucky, but I don't expect any different answer.

... REEEEEAAALLLLY hope I don't need a basket.
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I had said to Rodney, while waiting on the side of the road, "at least it happened here, and not in Canada last month"... If it had, I could have just dropped it off at the dealer on the way home, and paid for the fluids, and some water pump parts, and been done with it.

Just spoke to the dealer where I bought the bike. He promissed to try for me to see if GE, or KTM will show me any love, but said "I can tell you right now, it's going to come back as customer pay."

I am going out to pull the cover in a few minutes. I'll report back...
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Old 07-24-2012, 12:23 PM   #4639
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What a train wreck. Poor 690.
Now now be nice. This guy did a lot of things mentioned...His work has a very steam punk quality to it but it is good to see progress. I have not touched a bike in about a month due to other things in life going on.


I do have to ask why the massive 13th century chain guard?...Looks like an invitation for disaster or accelerated chain wear at the least.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:20 PM   #4640
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Any diagnosis and pix on the self-ventilating clutch cover?

Just pulled the cover, looks like it was the bearing that the clutch spins on. I can move the clutch up and down about a 1/4 inch.
I heard chunks of metal hitting the pan when I drained the oil. Not sure yet if I can get away with reusing the basket. have to pull it all off. I'll post pics later..
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:24 PM   #4641
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Just pulled the cover, looks like it was the bearing that the clutch spins on. I can move the clutch up and down about a 1/4 inch.
I heard chunks of metal hitting the pan when I drained the oil. Not sure yet if I can get away with reusing the basket. have to pull it all off. I'll post pics later..

Pray that your clutch assembly has not suffered any damage. You might not like to see the bill for a clutch basket.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:27 PM   #4642
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BK.RD.RNR. may sound a little cheap but so am I. I would weld that case instead of buying a new one. Just a thought.
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:04 PM   #4643
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BK.RD.RNR. may sound a little cheap but so am I. I would weld that case instead of buying a new one. Just a thought.
Aren't those cases Magnesium?
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Old 07-24-2012, 02:07 PM   #4644
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BK.RD.RNR. may sound a little cheap but so am I. I would weld that case instead of buying a new one. Just a thought.
I'm willing to bet that the cost of the case is one of the least concerns at this moment (until he finds out what went wrong and needs replacing inside). With that said, I am a recent-new-fan and huge advocate of JB Weld (radiator repair - spent $7.00 instead of $470.00 - yeah, that's right, really...). I would definitely try the JB Weld with the metal in the compound (I believe it might the Marine application of JB), sand it down smooth and paint the case. You've got 1 hour and $7.00 to lose if it doesn't work.
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Old 07-24-2012, 04:28 PM   #4645
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I'm considering buying these tanks to extend the mileage on my SMC 2008. Is the install difficult? How do the tanks tie in to the rear tank? I'm assuming they "T" into the hose from the rear some how. Also, how does the extra width up front affect your position on the bike? Thanks.
The install is not difficult, but a little time consuming. You are relocating parts like the coil and regulator/rectifier onto new brackets and rerouting the associated wiring. You have to remove the airbox in order to install the bracket/stud things that hold the tanks. You will be drilling holes into part of the fuel pump assembly. You will need to remove the rear wheel or remove the lower tank bolt and flip-up the tank to get to the fuel pump. The actual installation and the supplied instructions are not exactly a "Tab A into slot B" sort of affair and there's a bit of trial and error fitting needed to get everything to go together nicely. If you would be comfortable to walk out in the garage and remove body panels, wheels, airbox, electrical bits, and various hoses and wires on your bike and put it all back together again then installing this kit is not an issue.

The two tanks come together at a T fitting which then runs into a inlet on a machined plate that is added to the bottom of the fuel pump assembly on the main tank. I've only had the tanks on a few days now, but I don't really notice any drastic ergonomic impact. I don't have any interference when standing on the pegs. Obviously, if you scoot up to the front of the seat your knees will be splayed a bit wider, but not really much of an issue.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:10 PM   #4646
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Magnetic oil plug. I also heard a couple of chunks hit the drain pan while draining the oil.



Inside center of the clutch cover.




Wear marks on the outer basket.




Inside top of the clutch cover.










Has anyone come up with an easy solution for the clutch compression tools? I was thinking maybe some socket headed bolts would do the job just fine, or is there a neccesity for the extended heads to the bolts?

Sorry for the dumb questions, I've only done car clutches before.

I need to get the clutch pack off so that I can tell if it is the needle bearings, or worse.

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:46 PM   #4647
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Clutch compression tools...i used my hands when i changed my clutch...no compression tools needed
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:51 PM   #4648
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you have something larger than a needle bearing being ground up in that basket
i bet piece of gear
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:25 PM   #4649
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:29 PM   #4650
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Now now be nice. This guy did a lot of things mentioned...His work has a very steam punk quality to it but it is good to see progress. I have not touched a bike in about a month due to other things in life going on.


I do have to ask why the massive 13th century chain guard?...Looks like an invitation for disaster or accelerated chain wear at the least.
Uhhh, loved the the steam punk comment. But seriously, have we heard a bit more about the chain guard yet?

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