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Old 07-24-2012, 06:39 PM   #4651
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Clutch compression tools...i used my hands when i changed my clutch...no compression tools needed

Thanks Seth. I just did not know if it would fly apart on me. Should I just keep some pressure on the inner basket when disassembling/ reassembling then?
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:41 PM   #4652
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The install is not difficult, but a little time consuming. You are relocating parts like the coil and regulator/rectifier onto new brackets and rerouting the associated wiring. You have to remove the airbox in order to install the bracket/stud things that hold the tanks. You will be drilling holes into part of the fuel pump assembly. You will need to remove the rear wheel or remove the lower tank bolt and flip-up the tank to get to the fuel pump. The actual installation and the supplied instructions are not exactly a "Tab A into slot B" sort of affair and there's a bit of trial and error fitting needed to get everything to go together nicely. If you would be comfortable to walk out in the garage and remove body panels, wheels, airbox, electrical bits, and various hoses and wires on your bike and put it all back together again then installing this kit is not an issue.

The two tanks come together at a T fitting which then runs into a inlet on a machined plate that is added to the bottom of the fuel pump assembly on the main tank. I've only had the tanks on a few days now, but I don't really notice any drastic ergonomic impact. I don't have any interference when standing on the pegs. Obviously, if you scoot up to the front of the seat your knees will be splayed a bit wider, but not really much of an issue.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:52 PM   #4653
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Check the R&R clutch video at RockyMountainAtv.
Thanks BP, just saw this post, not sure what you mean by R&R, but watched the clutch replacement video. I'm assume the tools the manual refers to are just to hold things together, not that they are neccessarilly "under pressure" per se.
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Old 07-24-2012, 08:02 PM   #4654
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R&R in mechanic speak means something like repair or replace. or remove and replace or gouge the fuck out of the owner...
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:08 PM   #4655
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Thanks Seth. I just did not know if it would fly apart on me. Should I just keep some pressure on the inner basket when disassembling/ reassembling then?
The clutch comes apart just fine without, but I lost patience for trying to assemble it without the tools.

My suggestion, get some allen-head cap screws & some washers. IIRC the thread is 4mm x .8, and you need about 1.5" of threads to compress the slipper springs.

Or, I could drop my shop-made tools in the mail to you. They aren't pretty to look at, but they work.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:36 AM   #4656
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Question.

Hi,
i am currently looking at upgrading my bike. one question i have is if anyone uses Rotopax, instead of buying the expensive tanks? would it be possible to just add one 2 gallons on each side of the rear rack?

thanks for your time,

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Old 07-25-2012, 03:45 AM   #4657
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The clutch comes apart just fine without, but I lost patience for trying to assemble it without the tools.

My suggestion, get some allen-head cap screws & some washers. IIRC the thread is 4mm x .8, and you need about 1.5" of threads to compress the slipper springs.

Or, I could drop my shop-made tools in the mail to you. They aren't pretty to look at, but they work.

Thanks Al. I have to get it apart, put together a parts list for ordering, etc. first.

I'll give it a go without them, but if I get into a bind, I'll pm you. Thanks for the offer.
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:41 AM   #4658
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Did aliens abduct all the 690 jockeys?
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:47 AM   #4659
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Hi,
i am currently looking at upgrading my bike. one question i have is if anyone uses Rotopax, instead of buying the expensive tanks? would it be possible to just add one 2 gallons on each side of the rear rack?

thanks for your time,

Daniel
Sure can. Take a look at the Rally Raid Products soft luggage rack. Already sorted for attaching Rotopax.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:23 AM   #4660
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Sure can. Take a look at the Rally Raid Products soft luggage rack. Already sorted for attaching Rotopax.
Or the Kriega system:

http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-690-part...latform-system
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:01 AM   #4661
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That's pretty slick. And, I like the RotoPax system -- the mounting hardware is robust, the rotomolded tanks are very thick and durable, and it's all made in USA.

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Old 07-25-2012, 11:34 AM   #4662
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That's pretty slick. And, I like the RotoPax system -- the mounting hardware is robust, the rotomolded tanks are very thick and durable, and it's all made in USA.
My rotopax have failed (two, both of them). The nozzles expanded within the container.
There was no pulling then out of the container. To do so the nozzles broke apart leaving broken pieces in the containers.
The last time the nozzles did slide out it was just barely with an extremely tight rocking back & forth to pull them out.

I hope their system has changed - I am not a fan of rotopax.

Probably a blame the DOT for ALL THE CRAPPY GAS CANS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
What are they thinking. They all leak, dribble or are uncontrollable.

Therefore the reason I went to RR for a mounted gas tanks system.

Grrr, Bad on rotopax.
They fill up my lawn mower now.
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Old 07-25-2012, 12:17 PM   #4663
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My rotopax have failed (two, both of them). .....
Grrr, Bad on rotopax.
They fill up my lawn mower now.
Rotopax system is more expensive than RR or Safari tanks......and complicate your packing system.....

Overpriced system I think.....while I am happy with my Safari (aside from crappy fuel petcocks [bad design])....I would even go with RR tanks before Rotorooter packs....
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Old 07-25-2012, 08:16 PM   #4664
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Self ventilating clutch update...

So... If any of you guys hear a squeaking/ chirping sound that does not seem to come from any of the obvious places (ie; skid plate, engine mount bolts, etc..). Do yourselves a favor, and tow/ truck the bike home, drain the fluids, pull the clutch clutch cover, and check the clutch assembly for play.

It seems that my bearing for the main shaft into the transmission let loose, and took some of the engine case with it...



Those needle bearings I was hoping were the problem sure held up well..











Not bad for 30k miles..







I decided to put away a few of these after I realized I was dealing with the worst case scenario.

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Old 07-25-2012, 09:47 PM   #4665
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omfg.
I hate to see such horrific photos.

I'm saddened by your loss.

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