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Old 07-27-2012, 12:58 PM   #4711
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I have 23000km on an 08 and no problems as yet , oil changed every 2.5-3000km
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:13 PM   #4712
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I'm at 9,000 mi. on an '08. Issues include: broken tank bolts, faulty ground, faulty Rectifier/Regulator.

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That was exactly my point earlier Uller! This bike is fine for the guy whose never far from the grid, has got lots of bikes, does the occasional weekend ride or enters a race where they have KTM support vans just waiting. Maybe, however, there are those who have gotten their 690 niggles sorted out (or never even had to) and do take it far from the grid. I just went on a group ride in the mountains of British Columbia. There were (4) 690s. Not a single issue with any of them for the (3) days riding.
What it seems you failed to catch from Fish's report was how many thousands of dollars his breakdowns cost; how often it left him stranded; how much worse it would have been with out the BMW to tow; how many hookups with friends they missed because of the 690. I will disagree here, I very closely followed his thread. He purchased a used bike. Very quickly installed his Rally Raid Fairing and Tanks and shipped the bike off. At the time, it was still a very new bike and some of it's quirks weren't even discovered yet. His first problem was a fuel pump, every manuf. is having issues with fuel pumps on FI bikes. Plus, he had gas sitting in his tank for the entire shipment and customs wait..... His second issue was due to wires rubbing behind the fairing. (He admitted that this was his fault due to hasty bike building). His third issue was the coil leads vibrating and breaking (again, lack of attention to bike building) His fourth was the Rectifier/Regulator. As I said before, these are affecting all manufacturers and newer, better designs have been or are being developed. Only after Luke got his GPS back with a voltage readout did they determine the Rectifier/Regulator was faulty. It was even tested by John at Rally Raid and it looked fine. It is an intermittent fault that is very hard to diagnose. At the last years Dakar, multiple Yamahas and Hondas' dropped out due to faulty electrical components in the first few days. IMO, it is the manufacturers of the components which all bike manufacturers use, that is causing the problems. And, if you remember, that BMW that towed him also had a major breakdown, wasn't it the solid drive axle which cost more than all of the 690's issues put together? No solution to that in the middle of Africa either.

He went to dealers and experts in multiple countries on 3 continents and NO ONE could figure it out. No offense intended to the techs at the dealers however, If there is one thing I learned from reading the threads is that the dealers tend to know less about the 690 and how to fix it than half of the people reading this thread do. I think you have even proved that the "Experts" from KTM aren't really.......... (I once had a little birdy inform me that a faulty engine was shipped all the way back to Austria for diagnosis for running issues and it turns out the problem was that the fuel mapping was set to "0" for bad fuel )

Over 1/2 a million read his ride report, he appealed to the group for ideas and no one could figure it out. No breakthru answers from the wise here though of course all the head scratching does eventually pay off .How would you expect to diagnose a faulty R/R over the computer I don't know.....

At the same time I was talking to KTM NA and KTM Austria about Luke's bike and they were scratching their heads. John at rally raid was amazingly helpful but no one could find the issue. Again, intermittent electrical faults are the hardest of any to find.

So in retrospect, all it was was the rectifier... Are you sure?? Yes. His bike ran fine after that. Every breakdown of mine if a dealer or KTM Austria "figured out the problem" what ever it was, that's all it was, all the time! They always now knew what the problem was. It's always so simple in retrospect. Rest assured that after its fixed and when it breaks again that when it gets fixed - sometimes 6 months later, whatever it was would have been simple and not KTM's fault. You broke a lot of stuff.
FWIW's I realize BK's problem is not KTM's fault. I too had a bearing let go and grenade the engine and KTM assured me that they contract out for those bearings and so its not one of their parts that failed.
And every North Korean rocket that doesn't make it into outerspace ALSO has a perfectly good reason why it didn't make it... and in that instance most of us are glad for their level of commitment to excellence! I won't attempt to discuss North Korean Nukes, Android Cell Phones, or your KLX...

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Old 07-27-2012, 02:09 PM   #4713
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I have had two instances where my bike almost left me stranded. Both were probably due to coil connections but not 100% certain. Both times I was able to get the bike going and ride home. Since then I have replaced stock parts with more reliable replacements discussed in this forum. Thanks to all of you

Totally unknown is what % of 690 owners post here. I am guessing a low percent. Also unknown is the failure rate of the 690-how often a bike leaves a rider stranded. Maybe KTM has those numbers.

The week long Baja trip I did had 2 690s, 3 KTM 950s or 990s, 1 BMW GS800, and 2 BMW GS 1200s. All did fine with no real issues. The GS1200s had a lot of extra lights that got broken but nothing else.

Maybe we were just lucky or maybe that is the norm. I have no idea!
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Old 07-27-2012, 02:26 PM   #4714
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It seems like KTM's best FI guys are over on the Husaberg side of the fence. Maybe they could borrow a few of those guys to sort out the 690
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:02 PM   #4715
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My bike is dead, RIGHT NOW.
The 690 runs again.

My issue, today, was the key ignition plug came undone under the coolant reservoir. Hard to spot.
I looked the whole bike over but it was not discovered until at the dealer.

Thank you Wenatchee KTM for looking over my bike without an appt.

I'll work on getting back on a positive note!
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:19 PM   #4716
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Problems with my 690:

I have done the SAS removal, added a Safari tank, had the suspension tuned, added a Scott stabilizer, had Uller do an ECU tuning, rode BAja for 10 days, rode around with BobZ and his posse for a week in the dez,, gone through 4 sets of tires in 13,000 kms, installed foam Uni air filter, added a Cyclops 7" light, an FMF pipe, custom seat, and probably a few other things....

My major complaints about the 690 are:




two rotator cuff injuries, and five separated ribs...

That 690 keeps on breaking ME !!!
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:51 PM   #4717
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Hey Ged
did you lshit the bed again?

im tired of looking at my ankle..........i mean yours............my tub aint that ugly
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:04 PM   #4718
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I would join the broken bones club but I just broke my right fibula skateboarding so I guess it doesn't count. No surgery. Just a cast for 4 weeks. Have not broken any body parts on the 690.....so far.....
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:48 PM   #4719
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Ha! Reminds me of my foot!


From a car accident...

I don't see the 690 the reason for injuries. Its US!
And the fact the 690 gets up to speed very fast (any speed ), then hard to slow on dirt/gravel surfaces.
Ride smart!
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:22 PM   #4720
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Speedy recover to you motogd. I'd have used sutures tho'
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:32 PM   #4721
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It seems like KTM's best FI guys are over on the Husaberg side of the fence. Maybe they could borrow a few of those guys to sort out the 690
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:35 PM   #4722
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Problems with my 690:
My major complaints about the 690 are:

"Picture Deleted for my Eyes"

two rotator cuff injuries, and five separated ribs...

That 690 keeps on breaking ME !!!
Maybe we need to get you a lowering link so you don't have so far to fall next time.







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Old 07-27-2012, 06:59 PM   #4723
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Hey Ged
did you lshit the bed again?

im tired of looking at my ankle..........i mean yours............my tub aint that ugly
Bob,
Uller did three days of that route I sent you....I did a slow highside on a downhill Day One and separated five ribs....nothing extraordinary, just painful

As for the tub....I like yours better....





Or your other one:
http://appliances.wonderhowto.com/ho...ot-tub-167717/

And I asked you not to tell this forum about my nocturnal BM's....no respect
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:01 PM   #4724
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Speedy recover to you motogd. I'd have used sutures tho'
RJ,
That fibula break (titanium plate, wire, and seven screws) was February 2011.....damn 690 in a silt bed....
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:14 PM   #4725
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damn 690 in a silt bed....

All it heard was "bed"
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