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Old 07-29-2012, 01:42 PM   #4786
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Different frames for a start. And by that it needs a LOT of massage to fit....
Are you serious? Are both bikes not essentially the same apart from wheels/suspension?
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:51 PM   #4787
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Nope, completely diffrent animals. The tank sits where our air filter box does for example.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:56 PM   #4788
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Are you serious? Are both bikes not essentially the same apart from wheels/suspension?
The 690 SMC and 690 Enduro are the bikes you're thinking of. That tank is off a 690SM, which is a completely different beast.
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:06 PM   #4789
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I really like the look of this however, wonder how you would protect the headlights from rock damage with them sticking out past the fairing like that?
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:09 PM   #4790
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The 690 SMC and 690 Enduro are the bikes you're thinking of. That tank is off a 690SM, which is a completely different beast.
Bloody hell...and I suppose the two bikes that are similar both use the rear mounted fuel tank, right? Back to the drawing board...
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:24 PM   #4791
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I really like the look of this however, wonder how you would protect the headlights from rock damage with them sticking out past the fairing like that?
I'm thinking a stainless mesh cage over them might do the job. Been looking for a way to get some HIDs mounted up front of mine and think this may at least provide the platform. Alternatively, I need to go see Colebatch's guru to get something fabricated to mount them.
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:58 PM   #4792
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HI ALL
I've got a 2012 690 with just over 1000k's on her,been brill so far,put a fmf on all good,but when she had her 1st service they did the akro mapping,now she stalls every now and again,i had a ride in the bush and it happened
around 6 to 7 times all in a different way,so hard to place what and how it does it,any help here b4 i go into the dealers again today??

thanks mick
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:59 PM   #4793
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I'm thinking a stainless mesh cage over them might do the job. Been looking for a way to get some HIDs mounted up front of mine and think this may at least provide the platform. Alternatively, I need to go see Colebatch's guru to get something fabricated to mount them.
That makes sense....Thanks.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:07 PM   #4794
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Seth,
For a minute there I thought you were still drunk and had fingers full of peanut butter

Glad it was "the phone's fault"

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Old 07-29-2012, 09:28 PM   #4795
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Parachute math question:
2 guys jump out of an airplane. 1 guy has a quality chute that deploys 99.9% with no back up. The other guy has a cheaper chute that only opens correctly 80% of the time BUT he has 2 back ups for a total of 3. Whose got the better odds for survival?
So...20% chance of failure of each means .20 x .20 x .20 = 0.008, or .8% chance that all 3 fail. So the guy with the chute that only fails .1% of the time has a better chance of living to argue with his dealer

Whaddo I win?

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Old 07-29-2012, 11:40 PM   #4796
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I really like the look of this however, wonder how you would protect the headlights from rock damage with them sticking out past the fairing like that?
Thats the proto type, the screen will be redesigned to have a perspex cover over the lights. Until they get the first evo 2 tanks the fairing design is not set in stone and will change.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:24 AM   #4797
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Somebody had a rectifier failure on here that they said at first seemed like a pump failure. Could you please tell me the symtoms
Bike dies when running at speed but switching the kill switch off and on will start the bike again WTF is it now?
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:44 AM   #4798
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I'm no expert, but if the clutch switch is disabled, the bike thinks the clutch is pulled in, hence the fact it will start in gear. So, when the bike is on the over-run, it thinks the clutch is pulled and will continue to provide fuel to keep the engine running, not cut the fuel as you say.

I'm not saying the dealer was right to do what they did, but i can see some logic to it.
I may be totally wrong and I would be inclined to agree with your analysis, but I think the situation is more complex than we imagine. The ECU uses an analog to digital converter to convert the various sensor inputs to a digital value. In the case of switch inputs, the converted input is compared against a threshold value to determine the state of the switch. This means that most switches need to have a resistance in series with the switch. We don't know how the dealer rigged the switch bypass or what the threshold value is or what the ECU software does when the sensor value is on the the unexpected side of the threshold. The behavior described seemed to agree with the analysis that the problem was caused by the clutch switch bypass.

Seth observed performance degradation when he had to bypass his clutch switch in a rally. His bike was likely trying to run off the idle map.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:56 AM   #4799
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Seth observed performance degradation when he had to bypass his clutch switch in a rally. His bike was likely trying to run off the idle map.

We simply cut the wires and spliced them together because I had bought a cheaper aftermarket spare clutch lever...my stock one has the end broken off and I couldn't pass tech. So we rigged the clutch switch. When I ran the 26km prologue on the first day of the event the bike ran poorly, stalled a lot more than normal, and acclerated like crap. I was in contact with various forum members like Beany and Mudguts and we surmised that the clutch switch was to blame. i reinstalled my stock clutch lever and we reconnected the switch and the bike was back to normal. I do not know how the switch reacts when the Vortex computer is used.

When I compared the stock lever to the aftermarket lever we noticed that the "bump" on the top of the lever which hits the clutch switch was not on the aftermarket one...or was significantly smaller.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:58 AM   #4800
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Somebody had a rectifier failure on here that they said at first seemed like a pump failure. Could you please tell me the symtoms
Bike dies when running at speed but switching the kill switch off and on will start the bike again WTF is it now?

are you running the CA pump now Bob? Not sure about the rectifier...but there have been problems with the master/starter relay which can cause the problems you describe. There have also been some issues with the ignition switch that can cause a similar issue.
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