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Old 08-09-2012, 07:37 AM   #4966
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What is the 15 minute reset?
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Old 08-09-2012, 07:50 AM   #4967
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What is the 15 minute reset?
Do the TPS reset like Pantah suggested. The 15min reset consists of starting the engine from dead cold (sitting overnight), just let it sit and idle for 15mins straight with zero inputs (throttle etc.).

My understanding is that it resets the sensors, gives them adequate time to adjust to new weather/ air density conditions.

Also, don't know if this is part of your issue, but on my 08, you are not supposed to have any throttle input until the temp gauge reaches 4 bars. I found that the few times I ignored this, she seemed to stall very frequently. The last time I pushed my luck with that suggestion, it stalled as I was pulling into traffic.

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Any suggestions on extra parts I should be taking with me. Only thing I'm taking other than the basics is an extra fuel pump and filter.
If the tail light/ directional configuration is the same as the 08s, I'd take 3 or 4 extra left side rear directionals.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:20 AM   #4968
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Here's a new one...

'08 Model, has been running great for 11k miles. While rding along the FI light comes on solid and the engine tone gets louder, lots of popping on decel. Cycle key/kill on/off and back to running great again. Happens itermittantly. No other FI warning lights. Will connect to TuneECU tonight to check for codes. Any suggestions....
I'm thinking could be SAS signal related, did the SAS'ectomy 3 years ago, resistor may have corrosion causing ECU to blunder.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:25 AM   #4969
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'08 Model, has been running great for 11k miles. While rding along the FI light comes on solid and the engine tone gets louder, lots of popping on decel. Cycle key/kill on/off and back to running great again. Happens itermittantly. No other FI warning lights. Will connect to TuneECU tonight to check for codes. Any suggestions....
I'm thinking could be SAS signal related, did the SAS'ectomy 3 years ago, resistor may have corrosion causing ECU to blunder.

You have to put it into neutral for the FI light to flash your code for you, then compare with the manual for code. Remember to count both long, and short flashes, ie; 4 long, 3 short = (x) code.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:53 AM   #4970
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Blink Code

Mine is flashing one long & three short.
Intake air temperature sensor - input signal too low
Intake air temperature sensor - input signal too high

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Old 08-09-2012, 09:29 AM   #4971
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Mine is flashing one long & three short.
Intake air temperature sensor - input signal too low
Intake air temperature sensor - input signal too high

Wiring to the sensor is either broken or the sensors gone bad due to the wiring pulling on the sensor. This happens a lot on 690's.
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Old 08-09-2012, 09:49 AM   #4972
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You have to put it into neutral for the FI light to flash your code for you, then compare with the manual for code. Remember to count both long, and short flashes, ie; 4 long, 3 short = (x) code.
I did that, and no codes. I have picked up codes on TuneECU before that were not displayed on the bike. Will report back tonight..
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:51 AM   #4973
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I have a 2012 with an FMF and it doesn't stall....
it backfires like a pack mule farting sometimes...
but it did that with the stock muffler...

It seems that the 690 has been wildly inconsistent since the first model...
every new year model has had some reports of stalling
The 2012's have warm start issues...
my 2008 has never had even a minor hiccup in 11,000 miles

Tell you dealer to call KTM...when I complained about the backfires on my 2012, they told my dealer to install the Akro map...

You can thank California for this. I suspect it takes a lot of funky stuff to make some of these bikes compliant with emmissions. So they run like crap with no power and lots of issues but they pass the emmissions test. Bravo
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:23 PM   #4974
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You can thank California for this. I suspect it takes a lot of funky stuff to make some of these bikes compliant with emmissions. So they run like crap with no power and lots of issues but they pass the emmissions test. Bravo
I think we were all happier with the 49 state models...when the factories started building 50 state legal stuff, we all got cursed with the California drizzling shits...
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:15 PM   #4975
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I did that, and no codes. ..

Before cycling the key? If so, that's kind of strange indeed.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:38 PM   #4976
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I have a 2012 with an FMF and it doesn't stall....
it backfires like a pack mule farting sometimes...
but it did that with the stock muffler...

It seems that the 690 has been wildly inconsistent since the first model...
every new year model has had some reports of stalling
The 2012's have warm start issues...
my 2008 has never had even a minor hiccup in 11,000 miles

Tell you dealer to call KTM...when I complained about the backfires on my 2012, they told my dealer to install the Akro map...

2012 here too-- stock exhaust, map 1 or 2 and never stalls. sometimes a lean misfire but not blowing the throttle body off... do have a warm (hot) start issue. If you shut her down completely with the key and letting everything reset she fires right up. i've had warm start issues trying to restart after a stall in the rocks and not turning the key off. just my 2c. probably doesn't help anyone.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #4977
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It seems the 2012 are finicky also. Mine has Akra header and exhaust + Akra map. It has never stalled. However, on occasion, it has on start up run for about 10 seconds then quit. Upon restart, it runs fine. Maybe a cold start thing or something. No backfires. When I took the silencer out of the Akra it would crank, fire, but would not run at all. Put it back in, runs fine. Just thought I'd throw in my statistics here. Interesting situations with this machine.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:53 PM   #4978
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all this has to be because it's ready to race.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:20 PM   #4979
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:29 PM   #4980
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Wiring to the sensor is either broken or the sensors gone bad due to the wiring pulling on the sensor. This happens a lot on 690's.
Thanks Albie. My sensor has come off the bottom of my airbox once already.
I don't know if the dealer maybe left it off. One of the two screws were stripped out. Silly that it just screws into plastic.
Cheap spindly wiring on this bike too, IMO.

I should have time to go through my bike, waiting for a radiator.
A custom radiator may be in order.
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