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Old 08-22-2012, 06:50 AM   #5161
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I don't lose sleep over it , but simply recognize that the lack of a true subframe is a design flaw

Mac,
Have a good trip....hope your work holds up and serves you well.
Ged,

Have you heard of one single subframe/tank failure with the Rally Raid Products (or Mudguts) upper and lower bolts where installed?

I really haven't, unlike pretty much any other part on this bike.
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:23 AM   #5162
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Ged,

Have you heard of one single subframe/tank failure with the Rally Raid Products (or Mudguts) upper and lower bolts where installed?

I really haven't, unlike pretty much any other part on this bike.

I haven't. Plus, I do have both upper and lower RR bolts in place.

I am still trying to figure a way to build another support in there, but we'll see...
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:20 AM   #5163
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Ged,

Have you heard of one single subframe/tank failure with the Rally Raid Products (or Mudguts) upper and lower bolts where installed?

I really haven't, unlike pretty much any other part on this bike.
I had a RR upper tank bolt break on a camping trip. 60(ish) lbs of gear plus me and fast woops. RR has great customer service, I have nothing to complain about. Just throwing it out there, stuff breaks, then you fix it. Rince, wash, repeat kinda thing
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:44 AM   #5164
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I don't lose sleep over it , but simply recognize that the lack of a true subframe is a design flaw



Of course its only a design flaw because the bike was built as a big dirtbike and then marketed as a dirtbike that could go touring.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:46 AM   #5165
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Can't tell if the resistor is correct. Should be 22K OHM 1/4 watt ( red red orange gold I think). This resistor should be able to handle the current flow without going up in smoke.

One long, three short is the code for ambient air temp sensor out of range. The sensor itself could be bad.
Thanks I'll be down to Radio Shack today.

If my air sensor is toast, should it be covered under warranty on a bike that has a few non stock parts?
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:04 AM   #5166
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So, since I couldn't find a decent rear rack, I had to make one. What do you think?



I think it looks hideous and totally detracts from the lines of the bike.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:11 AM   #5167
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So, since I couldn't find a decent rear rack, I had to make one. What do you think?



is that a 2 gallon rotopax? if so I bet that setup weighs 20 lbs with full....thats a lot of weight bouncing around on a 10" lever
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:14 AM   #5168
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is that a 2 gallon rotopax? if so I bet that setup weighs 20 lbs with full....thats a lot of weight bouncing around on a 10" lever
15 - 20 lbs out that far has an impressive leveraging effect on your rear suspension. Also sitting up that high could make the bike handle even stranger.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:13 PM   #5169
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I don't lose sleep over it , but simply recognize that the lack of a true subframe is a design flaw


Of course its only a design flaw because the bike was built as a big dirtbike and then marketed as a dirtbike that could go touring.
Don't think it's a design flaw at all. Not seen KTM ever try to market it as a tourer. That's us folks here that decided it could be used for that purpose. As for the stress on the bolts, hanging a bunch of weight high and far back certainly won't help, not to mention really mess with handling; but I guess it ain't being raced so no biggie
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:43 PM   #5170
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i think it looks hideous and totally detracts from the lines of the bike.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:50 PM   #5171
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I think Mac's rack will be fine. When its loaded down with gear you will not see the arm coming up - it will actually be the 'backrest' to hold gear in place.
Packed backpacking light (-40 lbs) it may hold up.
We know how some throw the kitchen sink & everything else on...

Now some refinement with rounded corners, aluminum plate etc for a streamlined look and a few might buy something like that.
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:59 PM   #5172
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Don't think it's a design flaw at all. Not seen KTM ever try to market it as a tourer. That's us folks here that decided it could be used for that purpose. As for the stress on the bolts, hanging a bunch of weight high and far back certainly won't help, not to mention really mess with handling; but I guess it ain't being raced so no biggie
Yea, this^

All kinds of camping crap and a fat guy make sub frame bolts go pop
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:51 PM   #5173
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is that a 2 gallon rotopax? if so I bet that setup weighs 20 lbs with full....thats a lot of weight bouncing around on a 10" lever
It's just one gallon. A gallon of gas weighs less than 7 pounds.

The rack will only be holding a Wolfman dry bag with tent, pad and sleeping bag, which weighs 12 pounds total. Including fuel, the top rack will be 22-25 pound

The Rally Raid side racks will have Wolfman bags each weighing less than 15 pounds each, likely closer to 10.

I will be packing very light, and will be riding over 1000 miles of Colorado dirt over 7 days, the first week of September, while many of you spend your time in your office chairs. I'll let you know how it holds up.
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Old 08-22-2012, 01:58 PM   #5174
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It's just one gallon. A gallon of gas weighs less than 7 pounds.

The rack will only be holding a Wolfman dry bag with tent, pad and sleeping bag, which weighs 12 pounds total. Including fuel, the top rack will be 22-25 pound

The Rally Raid side racks will have Wolfman bags each weighing less than 15 pounds each, likely closer to 10.

I will be packing very light, and will be riding over 1000 miles of Colorado dirt over 7 days, the first week of September, while many of you spend your time in your office chairs. I'll let you know how it holds up.
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Old 08-22-2012, 02:01 PM   #5175
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2012 690R Cannister connections and removal

There are three hoses that connect to the cannister system. One goes into the cannister top from the fuel tank vent. Another, from the side of the electronic module goes into the top of the cannister also. The third comes from the throttle body intake into the bottom of the electronic module.

So if one was going to just remove the charcoal can, and plugged up the connection from the module into the top of the can and left the tank to vent elsewhere, what would be the problem? Let's assume we left the throttle vacuum line plugged into the bottom of the module also. I did this as an experiment and the bike ran quite fine. Why is it necessary to remove the module at all? I assume some have deemed it necessary. Also, bike has Akra exhaust/header and map. Here are some pics:


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