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Old 08-22-2012, 08:36 PM   #5161
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While we're on the canister topic again, is anyone experiencing carbon/charcoal spewing from the canister? This crap ends up on my pant leg and the right side of the bike/frame. Is this normal?

BTW, Dunefreak, how pissed are you that Champion closed their doors? Seemed like you picked up your bike right before they shutdown.
Sounds like you could have fuel in your canister. Do you keep it about an inch below the neck when you fill it?

Yeah that kinda bummed me out about Champion, but it wasn't their fault. Greg, the owner, did everything he could to try and save it. I'm just glad I got the bike before they closed, otherwise I would have had to drive to UT or CA. I got a good deal so I'm happy. Carter picked up the KTM franchise so I have local support again.


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Old 08-22-2012, 08:38 PM   #5162
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Anyone here that has a Vortex ECu ever noticed how touchy the throttle is without the stepper motor connected? I'm hoping to add some extra resistance to the throttle tension, anyone have any BTDT? It's really touchy when I'm riding over rough terrain, likes to buck and surge and I get arm pump trying to hold the throttle super steady.
Do you already have a smaller throttle cam? No big problems for me with Vortex in rough terrain and I do have a smaller cam.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:39 PM   #5163
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Sounds like you could have fuel in your canister. Do you keep it about an inch below the neck when you fill it?
Wow, I bet that's it. And no, I don't keep it an inch below the neck. I fill that b-i-t-c-h up. Not anymore. Now what?... (1)canister just needs to dry out or (2) do I drain it or (3) use this as an opportunity to yank that sucker off the bike. Thanks for the feedback.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:06 PM   #5164
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Wow, I bet that's it. And no, I don't keep it an inch below the neck. I fill that b-i-t-c-h up. Not anymore. Now what?... (1)canister just needs to dry out or (2) do I drain it or (3) use this as an opportunity to yank that sucker off the bike. Thanks for the feedback.
You can try to let it dry out, but I'd just yank it off at this point. They take a while to dry out. Sometimes they deteriorate once they become saturated. All the tank pressure that builds will keep pushing out whatever fuel that's in there. If you look at the vent whole just below the fill neck, you want to keep your fuel below that point even without the canister otherwise it will just puke out and your wasting fuel. You need to allow some space for expansion of the fuel when it warms up.


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Old 08-23-2012, 02:13 AM   #5165
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Does anyone know of a paint to use to touch up the grey on the engine cases. Thanks.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:06 AM   #5166
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Do you already have a smaller throttle cam? No big problems for me with Vortex in rough terrain and I do have a smaller cam.
I have the 400 cam installed already, but the throttle pull is really light still.
I might try to find another spring to fit on the bell crank on the t-body.
Thanks Dirt Jack, if all else fails I'll look into the friction lock.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:30 AM   #5167
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Anyone here that has a Vortex ECu ever noticed how touchy the throttle is without the stepper motor connected? I'm hoping to add some extra resistance to the throttle tension, anyone have any BTDT? It's really touchy when I'm riding over rough terrain, likes to buck and surge and I get arm pump trying to hold the throttle super steady.
Mine is also very touchy with the throttle. Let me know what you come up with.
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:41 AM   #5168
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Do you have the latest maps ? I know there has been some updates
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Old 08-23-2012, 04:47 AM   #5169
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Mine is also very touchy with the throttle. Let me know what you come up with.
Ditto. Fine on the black top but real twitchy offroad.


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Old 08-23-2012, 07:19 AM   #5170
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There has not been any recent updates on the Vortex unit. Are you guys still happy with your purchase? Is it worth the money? Where are you getting the most gains? I have been looking at getting one, though my bike runs great I would like to smooth out the bottom end. Where does the handlebar selector plug into?
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:34 AM   #5171
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Does anyone know of a paint to use to touch up the grey on the engine cases. Thanks.
Just throw a set of these on there. http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...m-690-e-r.html
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Old 08-23-2012, 07:49 AM   #5172
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I pulled the housing off and had a look inside the bell crank area of the t-body.
Looks like I can drill a small hole here and there and add a small spring.
I think the ride by wire stepper motor added resistance with the old ECU system.

An ECU flash won't help this problem as far as I can tell.
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Old 08-23-2012, 08:24 AM   #5173
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Mine is also very touchy with the throttle. Let me know what you come up with.

Have you changed maps? There's one on the Vortex with a "softer" initial throttle that works well.
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Old 08-23-2012, 10:34 AM   #5174
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Have you changed maps? There's one on the Vortex with a "softer" initial throttle that works well.
Map changes don't really make a difference, it's a lot like a touchy has pedal
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Old 08-23-2012, 11:40 AM   #5175
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Map changes don't really make a difference, it's a lot like a touchy has pedal
Maybe it's the newer updated ecu but the softer initial throttle map definitely made a difference. Doesn't cure everything but the power was more manageable on trails.
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