New and improved KTM690 WUNDERFEST - Page 390

crankshaft · 10-06-2012, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gros Buck

Yeap ...

Quite like this overhere too ...

Do you rather mean "compatible". I have a hard time thinking Yamaha are shopping for parts at the same place as KTM.

Paul Jr 8

Batting 1000 as usual

Well, they are shopping at the same place and it's called Keihin. The 2012 YZ450 has a 44mm t-body and after looking at it closely, it's very close to the 70 degree Berg T-body with a "Choke"/idle adjustment knob and from what I've been told, the injector is the same. The local Yamaha dealer parts guy is a friend of mine, looked at the manual yesterday and they ordered a t-body for me to peek at.

Tangai · 10-06-2012, 07:54 AM

I had an 08 690 Enduro. I liked the big single, but like all bikes, it had problems.

My questions for you guys who have the new 690 (actual 690cc) are:

Have they improved the suspension? Mine was [not] very good off road and awful on the road. The forks seemed cheap (with a lot of stiction) compared to the EXC models. Is it better now?

It ran jerky at low speeds. The EFI never seemed right at low RPM. Is that fixed?

Vibration in the bars, is it better on the 690cc or worse?

Depending on the sprockets I used, either first gear was too tall or sixth was too low. Is the transmission the same?

Thanks guys!

folknride · 10-06-2012, 08:49 AM

Has anyone tried these filters?
http://www.dnafilters.com/en/product...ENDURO-R-08-09

modeselector · 10-06-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tangai

I had an 08 690 Enduro. I liked the big single, but like all bikes, it had problems.

My questions for you guys who have the new 690 (actual 690cc) are:

Have they improved the suspension? Mine was [not] very good off road and awful on the road. The forks seemed cheap (with a lot of stiction) compared to the EXC models. Is it better now?

It ran jerky at low speeds. The EFI never seemed right at low RPM. Is that fixed?

Vibration in the bars, is it better on the 690cc or worse?

Depending on the sprockets I used, either first gear was too tall or sixth was too low. Is the transmission the same?

Thanks guys!

I have hot rodded my '12 on a variety of single track and suspension was actually much better than expected. As far as the gearing, when things get tight it requires more clutch work (as expected). The 690 is no 300 EXC, but I've been impressed in stock form.

RoninMoto · 10-06-2012, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by folknride

Has anyone tried these filters?
http://www.dnafilters.com/en/product...ENDURO-R-08-09

K&n and the cloth filters are great on road but i would not trust them in fine dust. They only really filter out the fine stuff when they are dirty.. then they don't flow as well. On a SM? yes.. and enduro? No.

Pantah · 10-06-2012, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modeselector

I have hot rodded my '12 on a variety of single track and suspension was actually much better than expected. As far as the gearing, when things get tight it requires more clutch work (as expected). The 690 is no 300 EXC, but I've been impressed in stock form.

I have a stock 2012 with a 1 inch Kouba Link. I think the suspension is a little harsher than my 950 was, and much nicer than my Yam WR250R is. I'd call them plush without noticable stiction. I believe they are a new design for 2012.

My motor started really smoothing out at around 2k miles. I have 2800 on it now and I'd say it's very smooth above 75 and below 65. Still a little vibey in the middle though.

My FI was pretty touchy in mode 3, so I changed it to the soft mode and find it happy around the city with no particular jerkiness.

On the highway the front is pretty light above 70mph. I installed a damper that helped up to about 90mph.

The gearbox is suprisingly close ratio. 1st is a little tall so there is plenty clutch slipping in really slow foot dab terrain. Meanwhile, I'm in 6th at about 55mph. But the motor revs to the moon, so it doesn't bother me. 80mph is 6000 rpm, which is 1000rpms higher than my 950 was at 80. 5000rpm produces about 70mph. I've only had it to about 105mph, but it feels like 115 is achievable easy enough.

The product was supposedly softened to make it more streetable and comfortable. That is why I bought it. Maybe others have more to offer.

dirty_sanchez · 10-06-2012, 11:45 AM

Holy Effin' Cow, I like this bike!

Just came in from knocking out 200 miles of tar, twisties and gravel this morning. Milage ranged from 58mpg on one top off and a low of 50.

Wheel stands at the flick of the throttle 1st through 3rd if you catch it in the meat of the power band. It'll lift the front coming over rises in the road at about 50 if you tickle her just right.

It's sooo much more flickable than the '07 640A that's getting dusty in the shop, there's no comparison.

Haven't had the first stall, am running the UNI double pod filter, the Laminar Lip made for the 640A, and a stock heat trap of a can until the Wings arrives at the end of next week.

Come on in, the water's fine

Dirty

SlowRide13 · 10-06-2012, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty_sanchez

Holy Effin' Cow, I like this bike!

+1

Harpoonalt · 10-06-2012, 12:28 PM

Ok..I'm sold! Coming from an XR650l, what will I notice most? Power, suspension, handling? I'm ready to drink of the orange koolaid!

Night Falcon · 10-06-2012, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpoonalt

Power, suspension, handling?

all of the above plus lighter and you get a KTM briefcase

welcome to fuel injetion and the 21st century

dirty_sanchez · 10-06-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpoonalt

Ok..I'm sold! Coming from an XR650l, what will I notice most? Power, suspension, handling? I'm ready to drink of the orange koolaid!

What will you notice most?

Yep.

All of the above.

Dirty

SigPig · 10-06-2012, 03:47 PM

I've heard that you can go from 690 Enduro to Supermoto setup quite easily but the reverse is much more difficult and not worth the time and effort. I was wondering if anyone has successfully completed a 19/17 setup on an SMC instead of the 21/18 and if so, what was involved in doing so? Thanks.

Barman · 10-06-2012, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SigPig

I've heard that you can go from 690 Enduro to Supermoto setup quite easily but the reverse is much more difficult and not worth the time and effort. I was wondering if anyone has successfully completed a 19/17 setup on an SMC instead of the 21/18 and if so, what was involved in doing so? Thanks.

Ask this guy.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=5792

Roadracer_Al · 10-06-2012, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harpoonalt

Ok..I'm sold! Coming from an XR650l, what will I notice most? Power, suspension, handling? I'm ready to drink of the orange koolaid!

POWER!

and a shocking ability to rip knobs off tires.

a

Harpoonalt · 10-06-2012, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadracer_Al

POWER!

and a shocking ability to rip knobs off tires.

a

I'd be happy if I could lift the front end with throttle alone......last bike I had that would do that was an RD350 back in my youth......this should be fun

10-06-2012, 07:54 AM	#5837
Tangai Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2006 Location: Pocola, OK Oddometer: 464	New 690cc questions I had an 08 690 Enduro. I liked the big single, but like all bikes, it had problems. My questions for you guys who have the new 690 (actual 690cc) are: Have they improved the suspension? Mine was [not] very good off road and awful on the road. The forks seemed cheap (with a lot of stiction) compared to the EXC models. Is it better now? It ran jerky at low speeds. The EFI never seemed right at low RPM. Is that fixed? Vibration in the bars, is it better on the 690cc or worse? Depending on the sprockets I used, either first gear was too tall or sixth was too low. Is the transmission the same? Thanks guys!

10-06-2012, 08:49 AM	#5838
folknride Old Adventurer Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Alberta, Canada Oddometer: 457	DNA air filters Has anyone tried these filters? http://www.dnafilters.com/en/product...ENDURO-R-08-09 __________________ Warped by the rain, driven by the snow I'm drunk and dirty, but don't ya' know I'm still Willin'

10-06-2012, 11:45 AM	#5842
dirty_sanchez Dirty_Sanchez Joined: May 2006 Location: Louisiana, Baton Rouge Oddometer: 2,094	Holy Effin' Cow, I like this bike! Just came in from knocking out 200 miles of tar, twisties and gravel this morning. Milage ranged from 58mpg on one top off and a low of 50. Wheel stands at the flick of the throttle 1st through 3rd if you catch it in the meat of the power band. It'll lift the front coming over rises in the road at about 50 if you tickle her just right. It's sooo much more flickable than the '07 640A that's getting dusty in the shop, there's no comparison. Haven't had the first stall, am running the UNI double pod filter, the Laminar Lip made for the 640A, and a stock heat trap of a can until the Wings arrives at the end of next week. Come on in, the water's fine Dirty __________________ No, really, the mustache means I love you. '09 KTM 250SXF for Sale, take a look: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...7#post21410167

10-06-2012, 03:47 PM	#5847
SigPig Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Kingston Oddometer: 135	Bigger wheels for SMC I've heard that you can go from 690 Enduro to Supermoto setup quite easily but the reverse is much more difficult and not worth the time and effort. I was wondering if anyone has successfully completed a 19/17 setup on an SMC instead of the 21/18 and if so, what was involved in doing so? Thanks. __________________ SIGPIG 2010 KTM 690 SMC 2011 KTM 200 XCW

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10-06-2012, 12:28 PM	#5844
Harpoonalt Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Vermont .... Oddometer: 192	Ok..I'm sold! Coming from an XR650l, what will I notice most? Power, suspension, handling? I'm ready to drink of the orange koolaid!