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Old 01-30-2013, 06:47 PM   #6976
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Got it most of the way back together, but figured I'd fire it up and make sure everything was good to go before I put the fairing and whatnot on.

Take it back appart and see which mission-critical doohicky you left unplugged.
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Old 01-30-2013, 07:56 PM   #6977
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I have used Rotella in all my KTMs from my 150 thru my 640 and now in my 690
The 690 clutch doesn't seem to get along with the Rotella in my experience. The shifting action is stiff and it doesn't seem to slide into gear easily. Maybe your experience would be different? I thought you are sponsored by an oil company?
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Old 01-30-2013, 08:55 PM   #6978
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The 690 clutch doesn't seem to get along with the Rotella in my experience. The shifting action is stiff and it doesn't seem to slide into gear easily. Maybe your experience would be different? I thought you are sponsored by an oil company?
Seems to work perfectly fine all my other bikes
I am going to try it in the.690

Did have an oil sponsorships
But cutbacks hurt everybody.
Save the good stuff for the Race bikes
And use Rotella all the other times
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:50 PM   #6979
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At $10000 the 690 is a ghetto bike..i would run whatever oil is on sale at the local jiffy mart
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Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 PM   #6980
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Haven't pulled the plug yet to see if I'm getting spark, that will be on the list of things to check tomorrow.

Has anyone run into something like this before or heard of a similar situation?

Jeremy
Check your spark. No need to pull the plug.. just put a spare spark plug on the plug wire. The evo 1 you have to move the coil.. do you have to move the coil for the Evo 2? Maybe your low voltage coil wire came lose or something. This has happened to me and others.

Good luck.
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:35 AM   #6981
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Has anyone pulled the front forks apart on the 2012 690?
No-one in NZ has really had a lot of experience with the 690 suspension in general. 50mm race sag and i weigh around 78kg in my birthday suit. Front suspension is way too hard for general off-road riding, they bounce off small stones/bumps instead of soaking up the bumps.
I have been recommended to take out the base valve stack and replace the 0.15 shims with 0.10 shims.

Any ideas/comments welcome.
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:21 AM   #6982
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Did you load the efi map and the throttle map?
I tried starting before and after loading both maps. Since I haven't been able to do the 15 minute idle adaption I'm sure the FI map hasn't been committed to the ECU yet. Either way, having the proper map shouldn't keep me from being able to start I wouldn't think, it was just effect how well it ran once it was going.


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Take it back appart and see which mission-critical doohicky you left unplugged.
That's the plan for today. After doing all of the work required to fit the Evo2 I'm kind of second guessing whether or not I want to stick with it. It seems the battery relocation kit puts the positive terminal perilously close to the frame ( like within 3mm) and a good bump would possibly end badly for my electrical system. I'm guessing if I put in a small 8-cell battery it wouldn't be an issue.

Also, with the airbox deleted it gives much easier access to the valves (which is what I was going for) but it also makes it a lot easier for water to get into the intake.

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Check your spark. No need to pull the plug.. just put a spare spark plug on the plug wire. The evo 1 you have to move the coil.. do you have to move the coil for the Evo 2? Maybe your low voltage coil wire came lose or something. This has happened to me and others.

Good luck.
I did have to move the coil to get the airbox out. I'll follow the wires around to see if I may have accidentally pulled something loose. Thanks for the tip.


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Old 01-31-2013, 06:35 AM   #6983
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At $10000 the 690 is a ghetto bike..i would run whatever oil is on sale at the local jiffy mart
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:21 AM   #6984
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+++++++++10000
and for the rear shock too who gives sometimes kick ass......

Are you saying you've replaced the shims and it's an improvement?

I've seen the information on that reduction of thickness but haven't seen much feedback from people that have actually done it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 08:39 AM   #6985
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After doing all of the work required to fit the Evo2 I'm kind of second guessing whether or not I want to stick with it. It seems the battery relocation kit puts the positive terminal perilously close to the frame ( like within 3mm) and a good bump would possibly end badly for my electrical system. I'm guessing if I put in a small 8-cell battery it wouldn't be an issue.
Ok, I misunderstood. You installed the KTM evo2 Tuning kit...

I was thinking you were talking about the Rally Raid Evo2 tank kit.

I would check the spark as suggested before. Did you put the cam in also? If so.. Maybe the camshaft timing is off?
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:28 AM   #6986
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Ok, I misunderstood. You installed the KTM evo2 Tuning kit...

I was thinking you were talking about the Rally Raid Evo2 tank kit.

I would check the spark as suggested before. Did you put the cam in also? If so.. Maybe the camshaft timing is off?
I passed on the cam for now since you have to drop the engine out to put it in. I'll try it once I hit my next major service. Going to check into the spark and maybe pull the injector to see if it's giving any fuel.

It was working fine before I started dorking with it, so I'm sure it's just a loose connection somewhere.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:05 AM   #6987
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I passed on the cam for now since you have to drop the engine out to put it in. I'll try it once I hit my next major service. Going to check into the spark and maybe pull the injector to see if it's giving any fuel.

It was working fine before I started dorking with it, so I'm sure it's just a loose connection somewhere.
Don't actually have to drop it all the way out.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:22 AM   #6988
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It was working fine before I started dorking with it, so I'm sure it's just a loose connection somewhere.
Ok, I figured it out. I'm not sure the Evo2 kit is fully compatible with the 2012's.

The bottom rim of the filter is interfering with the fuel line. There's a quick disconnect on the fuel hose right where the brim of the filter sits and it's triggering the disconnect.



And in this picture the filter is supposed to attach to the black racing bracket via a screw, but there's a good 1/2" gap between the two. I've seen pics of <2011 installs where they mated perfectly. If I fit it to the bracket it doesn't reach the throttle body.



It's running now, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am leaving it in this config.
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:25 PM   #6989
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Ok, I figured it out. I'm not sure the Evo2 kit is fully compatible with the 2012's.

The bottom rim of the filter is interfering with the fuel line. There's a quick disconnect on the fuel hose right where the brim of the filter sits and it's triggering the disconnect.

It's running now, but I'm not sure how comfortable I am leaving it in this config.
There's an Evo2 discussion (below) that might benefit from this:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=832366
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Old 01-31-2013, 12:29 PM   #6990
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There's an Evo2 discussion (below) that might benefit from this:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=832366
Too many Evo2 kits for one bike. haha.. The one I'm referring to is the "tuning kit". The one in that thread is the "fairing / tank kit".

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