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Old 02-18-2013, 02:53 PM   #7291
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My son TJ rode Ginger & I rode Big Orange over to Vibranator before lunch.

WOW! I can't say enough good about Don over a Virbanator/Ricor.:Pom

We did a bunch of experimenting before & after lunch at his place.

Finished results:
Big Orange now has a set of the regular Vibranators. Took my bars vibes to near nothing. Man I wish I had done this long ago.

Ginger started with the regular units. I rode her around the parking lot and still noticed considerable vibes.

After lunch we went back and changed up to the heavier units. Takes a huge Tap to do the end of the bars. I probably should have cut off some of the bar ends. They now stick out an inch. More clearance for the levers I guess. :p

I'm gonna say the heavy ends reduced my vibes about 70% on the 690.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:15 PM   #7292
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Hi I tought all KTM were high maintenance wise, so I overlook this one.
I been reading and found that some people say the 2012 have some issues how hard are they to resolve. is the 2013 the same?

separated the throttle body from the motor
bad tank bolts
pivot bolts
radiator fan shroud and blades wearing into radiator quickly
leaking coolant on metal pump face thingo
stalling at idle at lights,ecu fuel tuning etc
polycarbonate sub frame ?
rubber fuel or coolant? hose needs to be zip tied to frame to avoid wear

How long it takes to change oil/filter?
also what is the alternator rated at?
Thanks!
Somebody just said that these were well-documented issues with easy fixes, but I disagree.

I have still not managed to solve the sporadically flashing oil light problem on my 2012 Enduro R - Twin Air filter seems to have cut down the incidence, but the light still flickers sometimes at low revs and at idle - oil pressure OK on test - KTM are concerned, and want to keep trying to find the issue - possibly just a buggered sensor - it's booked in for another look in a couple of weeks time - this bike is still under warranty, and has been off the road for more than half its short life ...

Great bike to ride - the Twin Air filter has given it wings - astonishing difference ...

But all my riding is out in the bush, a long way from civilisation - ie 400km or more - can't have flashing oil lights in the middle of nowhere - much as I hate to say it, at least the DR650 (with suspension and other mods) was completely dependable and completely fixable by the roadside - I sold the Husaberg recently for similar unreliability issues - twice had to leave it hidden under trees, and go back for it with a vehicle - a third time a mate left me by the roadside guarding it, and came back with the car ...

High-performance bikes are fun, but for some people they also need to be reliable ...

I'll hang onto this 690 and try to get the oil light issue fixed - after that, it will need to behave for 6 months or more before I consider it a genuine adv bike (c.f. high-specced toy) - planned run to the desert in May - you really don't want complex issues out there ...
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:32 PM   #7293
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Somebody just said that these were well-documented issues with easy fixes, but I disagree.

I have still not managed to solve the sporadically flashing oil light problem on my 2012 Enduro R - Twin Air filter seems to have cut down the incidence, but the light still flickers sometimes at low revs and at idle - oil pressure OK on test - KTM are concerned, and want to keep trying to find the issue - possibly just a buggered sensor - it's booked in for another look in a couple of weeks time - this bike is still under warranty, and has been off the road for more than half its short life ...

Great bike to ride - the Twin Air filter has given it wings - astonishing difference ...

But all my riding is out in the bush, a long way from civilisation - ie 400km or more - can't have flashing oil lights in the middle of nowhere - much as I hate to say it, at least the DR650 (with suspension and other mods) was completely dependable and completely fixable by the roadside - I sold the Husaberg recently for similar unreliability issues - twice had to leave it hidden under trees, and go back for it with a vehicle - a third time a mate left me by the roadside guarding it, and came back with the car ...

High-performance bikes are fun, but for some people they also need to be reliable ...

I'll hang onto this 690 and try to get the oil light issue fixed - after that, it will need to behave for 6 months or more before I consider it a genuine adv bike (c.f. high-specced toy) - planned run to the desert in May - you really don't want complex issues out there ...

I will say the stock efi, wiring harness is not so good. Wiring harness is ok at furst but no good after too short.

Flickering light should be easy to diagnose..install gage and ride. If light flickers and psi is good its electrical. Is idle set at proper spec? Proper oil filters...oil..valve cover sealed proper...vents clear etc.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:32 PM   #7294
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Somebody just said that these were well-documented issues with easy fixes, but I disagree.
IMHO the ones in the list are well documented and easy to fix, that's what the person responded too.

You've introduced another early life random failure to the mix
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:00 PM   #7295
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Hi I tought all KTM were high maintenance wise, so I overlook this one.
I been reading and found that some people say the 2012 have some issues how hard are they to resolve. is the 2013 the same?

separated the throttle body from the motor
bad tank bolts
pivot bolts
radiator fan shroud and blades wearing into radiator quickly
leaking coolant on metal pump face thingo
stalling at idle at lights,ecu fuel tuning etc
polycarbonate sub frame ?
rubber fuel or coolant? hose needs to be zip tied to frame to avoid wear

How long it takes to change oil/filter?
also what is the alternator rated at?
Thanks!

I have a 2012 with about 4500 miles on it. Not one issue yet other than a melted turn signal which I fixed by upgrading to smaller signals.

I still plan to upgrade my tank bolts. Never once had a stall that wasn't caused by myself.
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:31 PM   #7296
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From what I understand the other fix to melted turn signal is an aftermarket can which eliminates the cat in the OEM can and thus all the heat. I pick my '10 up next week and it has this and other fixes.
Have really enjoyed this thread, learning all about my new to me 690ER.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:01 PM   #7297
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From what I understand the other fix to melted turn signal is an aftermarket can which eliminates the cat in the OEM can and thus all the heat. I pick my '10 up next week and it has this and other fixes.
Have really enjoyed this thread, learning all about my new to me 690ER.
I forgot to mention I upgraded to an FMF pipe as well.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:58 PM   #7298
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From what I understand the other fix to melted turn signal is an aftermarket can which eliminates the cat in the OEM can and thus all the heat. I pick my '10 up next week and it has this and other fixes.
Have really enjoyed this thread, learning all about my new to me 690ER.
Aftermarket can...reposition turn signal stalk...or switch turn signal model.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:12 PM   #7299
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Flickering light should be easy to diagnose..
Yes, you would think so - but two mechanics can't track it down ...

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If light flickers and psi is good its electrical.
Yes, it probably is 'electrical', but on a fuel injected bike that doesn't narrow it down much ...

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Is idle set at proper spec?
As far as they can tell, idle speed is as per Akro/after-market air filter KTM map ...

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Proper oil filters...oil..valve cover sealed proper...vents clear etc
Yes, all that's fine ...

It may be the sensor - or someone at KTM Australia wondered whether a hot hose was too close to the sensor - said he'd seen that once before, with similar symptoms ...

This bike also does the stalling thing sometimes on aggressive braking into corners (clutch in) - probably part of the same issue ...
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:08 PM   #7300
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So these are all well documented issues that have simple solutions know to the 690 crowd since about mid 08. Unfortunately every bike has its issues.

My 08 has about 12 rally motos on it, a hill climb, one endurance rally lots of trail riding and about 10000 miles on the clock.

I zip tied the rad guard on
replaced the clutch slave
Custom mapped the ecu
Insulated the fuel line
Changed air filter to foam
Changed to fmf exhaust
replaced seat
Changed upper and lower tank bolts.

My original fuel pump lasted 9500 miles and siezed due to dirty fuel in australia.
i fixed my "clouding" speedo problem but then got a new one warranteed.
Installed a different headlight.

Have done many other changes for ergo, performance, suspension etc.
You left off the spacer/silicon hose on the fan shroud to prevent it from wearing holes into the rad.
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:47 PM   #7301
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Can these lights be seen flashing from the side, or only behind?
They can be seen from the side. I'll get some pics up when I get a chance
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Old 02-18-2013, 09:53 PM   #7302
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You left off the spacer/silicon hose on the fan shroud to prevent it from wearing holes into the rad.
Yep...good call.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:28 AM   #7303
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i have a new to me 2010 690R, the licence plate holder has been changed from stock, i would like to put it back to stock but i am missing a few bits...

does anyone know what bike the plate holder in the photo is from? looking at google images i have seen it on a few SM bikes but cant find it in the parts fiche.

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Old 02-19-2013, 01:44 AM   #7304
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i have a new to me 2010 690R, the licence plate holder has been changed from stock, i would like to put it back to stock but i am missing a few bits...

does anyone know what bike the plate holder in the photo is from? looking at google images i have seen it on a few SM bikes but cant find it in the parts fiche.

This isn't standard either I'm affraid. The tail light is but the rest is aftermarked. Would you like the numbers for the stock items?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:22 AM   #7305
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This isn't standard either I'm affraid. The tail light is but the rest is aftermarked. Would you like the numbers for the stock items?

yep go on then..... thanks..
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