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Old 02-19-2013, 12:59 PM   #7366
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Already been done. And yes, this isn't my first moto-forum so I understand the nature of these things. I'll keep lurking to listen and learn. Might have something useful I've learned over the years to boot. Never can tell.
you can believe this I'd generally consider Bob's advice sound where ever he sees fit to offer it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:03 PM   #7367
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you can believe this I'd generally consider Bob's advice sound where ever he sees fit to offer it.
You are much too kind and I am much too prone to step on it so let the reader beware, but thanks anyway.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:31 PM   #7368
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The BMW's I've had over the years have grown in electronic complexity greatly ...

... It (690 2010) will be in competition with my F8GS as an adventure bike. And by that I mean, a bike I can get lost in the mountains on 2000 miles from home and expect not to be bear food. So, all the better dirt attributes of the KTM will have to be matched by dead nuts reliability when I go on my annual adventure ride or it will end up just being an expensive stay near home DRZ. We shall see. Good to read all the experiences and fixes folks have had though.
I agree re' beemers - the difference being that BMW seem to have embraced technology and reliability as one - the two G650 X-Challenges we ride with are at least as capable as the 690 (with suspension mods), and appear to be bombproof - both close to 75,000km now, and all of that hard bush riding ...

I was tempted to get a Husky TE630 (still a few around then), but went with the KTM690 as I thought it was likely to be better sorted and more reliable - Husky sold very few TE630s here, as there were problems with 610 and the word got out that you couldn't depend on them - since buying the 690 (and spending a lot more on it than I would the TE630), I have come to realise that this bike is not in fact likely to be a more solid and reliable package than the 630 ...

Shame there's no more X-Challenges ..

Hopefully my current issue (which others seem to have experienced) will be rectifiable, and the rest of the bike will run reliably ...
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:59 PM   #7369
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Interesting comments about the Husky 610. I was told by the mechanics at Atlanta Husqvarna that the 610 was pretty much bullet proof and had reasonable service intervals, unlike the newer 630 which is service intensive like the smaller KTMs. Basically, I've been looking for a cross between my F8GS and DRZ 400. Something reliable, light, and worthy off-road. I hope I've found it in the 690. I think the one I'm getting is a good one, with practical upgrades and well cared for. So if it fails it'll be KTM's or my fault, not the PO's.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:00 PM   #7370
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Up until 08 most KTM shops sold carbureted (I find it humorous that a motorcycle forum reply window indicates that "Carbureted" is spelled incorrectly)...
It is – you need two ts
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:04 PM   #7371
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I'm not sure it matters. This shows both. Oh we are a buncha comma nazi's aren't we.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Carbureted
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:15 PM   #7372
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I'm not sure it matters. This shows both. Oh we are a buncha comma nazi's aren't we.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Carbureted
For sure. I think two t's is actually classical English, like flavour and shoppe. But like you said, either is correct.

To get back on track, look at what I just got...



As others have said, it's a bummer this will be mostly hidden.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:28 PM   #7373
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To get back on track, look at what I just got...

As others have said, it's a bummer this will be mostly hidden.

That is a nice looking clutch slave cylinder.

Is this an Oberon-manufactured part ?



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Old 02-19-2013, 02:36 PM   #7374
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Is this an Oberon-manufactured part?
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:39 PM   #7375
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For sure. I think two t's is actually classical English, like flavour and shoppe ...
It's not 'classical English' - it's simply English as written in England, Australia and countries other than the US - who for some reason seem to need things to be phonetic - eg 'tyre' becomes 'tire' ...

I worked for a year for USDA in Colorado, and took great pleasure in ensuring that all my reports were written on a PC that had English as the default language - not US-English - endless complaints about 'specialise' (etc etc etc) - those reports never featured the word 'carburetted', but had they needed to ...
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the US - who for some reason seem to need things to be phonetic - eg 'tyre' becomes 'tire' ...

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https://www.hookedonphonics.com/


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Old 02-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #7377
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(1) Aluminum VS (2) Aluminium. (1) Mostly an American spelling. (2) everyone else in the world.
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Old 02-19-2013, 02:55 PM   #7378
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One of those episodes occured at a red light. When the light changed and I pulled the clutch in, it backfired and blew the muffler tip into the windshield of a Deputy Sheriff that was sitting behind me at the intersection....he wasn't amused...
Oh hell, I'm quite amused.
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Old 02-19-2013, 03:01 PM   #7379
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Shame there's no more X-Challenges ..

There's a reason, it's a complete pile of shit.
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Fuel injection certainly improves fuel economy, but the complexity doesn't by definition lead to a better bike ...





We are fortunate here in having a long-time KTM dealership with mechanics who have been working on these bikes since they were introduced – there is only one older KTM dealership in Australia ...

My point to someone a few pages back was that 690s are very complex bikes – and in my case an issue has arisen under warranty that continues to fox experienced mechanics and the tech mob at KTM Australia – if we can fix the issue (and I expect we will eventually) then the bike may prove reliable – but is it a good ADV bike?

The jury is out on that one, IMO – complexity isn’t necessarily what you want – at this point I admit I would probably prefer a mint condition 625 SXC – similar specs to the 690, but SIMPLE and easily fixable ... [/QUOTE]


I think you completely misunderstood the point of my post...which was simply....that many dealers were not/are not experienced in diagnosing and repairing the new fuel injected bikes. Some of them have become since the introduction but many still are not very good at it.

And I would further say that KTM 690's are no more complex than the earlier bikes. The engines still work the same way they just have more electronic bits on them...which you may view as more complex but I find less complex than the voodoo of carbureter tuning...or carburetter tuning depending on which spelling floats your ducky.



And carbureted has only one "T" while carburetted has two "T"s...as apparently it can be spelled both ways

car·bu·ret (kärb-rt, -rt, -by-)
tr.v. car·bu·ret·ed or car·bu·ret·ted, car·bu·ret·ing or car·bu·ret·ting, car·bu·rets
To combine or mix (a gas, for example) with volatile hydrocarbons, so as to increase available fuel energy.
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