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Old 02-27-2013, 01:06 PM   #7471
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You're kidding ... Or you're not playing hard enough maybe ??? At 50000 miles, my forks will be enterely destroyed.

Let say there's a big difference after 2500 miles off road. Then it smooths gradually. Retrofit every 10000 miles. Seals every 5000 miles, or every seasons. Match with the annual seals change.

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I am kidding. i have ridden the shit out of my 08 and never could get the stock suspension dialed in or loosened up into anything good for aggressive trail riding. it was good for dirt roads and good sized jumps but just not great for trails. With a reworked set of R suspension on there it is better but could still be better yet.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:28 PM   #7472
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Thanks for the info. Guess what I'll do is call them when I'm ready to order and talk to them about it.

If you had it to do over, would you cut the bars down?
The new ones look like this:



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Old 02-27-2013, 02:56 PM   #7473
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The new ones look like this:



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Thank you sir!
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:30 PM   #7474
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Which bike for adventure LDT

Chaps,

Not sure if this is the right place but I'm looking for constructive opinion on the right bike for a LDT adventure bike. I've asked the question in a few places as I'm trying to get the right answer and it doesn't get better than here for advice.

I am thinking,

690 enduro R 2013
70mm lowering kit (appreciate any info on how best to achieve this and keep 21")
Big Safari tank.
Protection equipment, skid plate, bars, head light, what else.
Fairing or screen, which is better
luggage racks
bag type, hard or soft, I;m told HT are good.
Is the standard seat ok for touring
I want to retain the ability to ride 2 up sometimes if possible
main stand

what else

One BIG concern I have is that there are many cases of reliability issues. Would the Rotax based bikes be a better choice. I like the power but I think the comment I've seen ref pushing an interesting bike v riding a boring one.

I don't want to build a bike only to find I need to change it due to continued reliability issues.

All views or comments very much appreciated.

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Old 02-27-2013, 05:37 PM   #7475
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With a70mm lowering kit you'll have 180mm left thats road bike territory I cant see that being a nice plush
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:57 PM   #7476
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I dropped my 09 an inch(24mm?) and will do te same on the 11 I just got. An inch is noticable. 70 mm is a huge drop.

If you want this bike that low, I'd look at some bmw's that are better suited for longer touring on roads in other ways too.
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #7477
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ground clearance

Based on the specs I got the seat height is 910, ground clearance 280 so should still leave 840 seat and 210 ground clearance.

Is this correct for the 2013 ??
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:26 PM   #7478
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Chaps,

Not sure if this is the right place but I'm looking for constructive opinion on the right bike for a LDT adventure bike. I've asked the question in a few places as I'm trying to get the right answer and it doesn't get better than here for advice.

I am thinking,

690 enduro R 2013
70mm lowering kit (appreciate any info on how best to achieve this and keep 21")
Big Safari tank.
Protection equipment, skid plate, bars, head light, what else.
Fairing or screen, which is better
luggage racks
bag type, hard or soft, I;m told HT are good.
Is the standard seat ok for touring
I want to retain the ability to ride 2 up sometimes if possible
main stand

what else

One BIG concern I have is that there are many cases of reliability issues. Would the Rotax based bikes be a better choice. I like the power but I think the comment I've seen ref pushing an interesting bike v riding a boring one.

I don't want to build a bike only to find I need to change it due to continued reliability issues.

All views or comments very much appreciated.

Cheers dave
Dave,

I did the following to my 12:

1 1/2" (38mm) lowering & revalve by Superplush suspension (I'm 5'8" with 32" (812mm) inseam, 150 lbs)
1" removed from sidestand (local shop)
Seat Concepts seat cover & foam
Flatland skidplate
Moose Racing Hybrid footpegs

I am very happy with all these mods. No reliability issues, but only 1600 miles (2500 km).

Have Fun,

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Old 02-27-2013, 06:29 PM   #7479
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I hadn't looked at those measurements and wouldn't doubt their accuracy but what may be more important is that you will be putting you're wheel into the gas tank on every little rut. Kouba makes a 1 5/8 inch lowering link, add a 17 inch rim, and you would probably be as low as this bike should go.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:09 PM   #7480
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good feedback

Thanks, I hadn't thought of the rim. That should give me about 12 to 14mm I think and also give a similar amount of additional clearance. With the Links at 41mm would be 53 without touching the shock.

Does the 18" rear wheel make a big difference to off road, gravel road riding compared to the 17".

What do you think of progressive springs (hyperpro) to allow more initial sag, I used them on my GSA and they work very well on that.

As reference, an XT 660 has 210 clearance stock which is why I think the 70mm affect on ground clearance (which would be 210) would be good for what I want to do.

Any idea how much I could drop the triple clamps before running into clearance issues at the front.

What about a shorter shock, any recommendation for the best replacement shock, Hyperpro, Wilbers, Ohlins etc. Could I get the original shock modified.

Whatever i end up doing it needs to be reliable for the intended use.

thanks dave
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:18 PM   #7481
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Does the 18" rear wheel make a big difference to off road, gravel road riding compared to the 17".
You will get a better selection of offroad tires with the 18" wheel.
What do you think of progressive springs (hyperpro) to allow more initial sag, I used them on my GSA and they work very well on that.
Some people love them. I hate them. I'd worry about bottoming out with luggage and the shorter clearance.

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Chaps,

Is the standard seat ok for touring
Of course not.

I want to retain the ability to ride 2 up sometimes if possible
I hope you signed a pre-nup.....

One BIG concern I have is that there are many cases of reliability issues. Would the Rotax based bikes be a better choice. I like the power but I think the comment I've seen ref pushing an interesting bike v riding a boring one.
The BMW rotax bikes are soley the F-bikes, correct?
Those bikes are hardly boring! (Former f800gs owner here).
You should ask yourself: should those bikes be better for your type of riding?

Also, 5'8" 30" inseam...the bike fits just fine.

Some links to help you get started:
wiki
http://ktm690.info/index.php/Main_Page
n00b questions
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=766514
luggage
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=365169
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:53 PM   #7482
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OK,

I'm not sure I'm getting the gist of the lowering needs and results. Having spacers put into the suspension and getting shorter fork springs (KTM shock will work with 1 1/2" lowering with no shortening of the spring) will give you the same clearance on the fenders as stock, you just lose travel: My bike was lowered 1 1/2" and now has about 8 1/2" travel.

Don't lowering links change the position of the swingarm in relation to the shock so that having a lower seat height, you will have just about the same travel which can cause tiretus flameitus (Latin for burning tire)?

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Old 02-28-2013, 12:06 AM   #7483
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:58 AM   #7484
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Nice, but why?
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:09 AM   #7485
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Nice, but why?
Kind of my thoughts too. Do you get any advantages with this set up? Looks like you might cook your foot
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