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Old 03-06-2013, 10:08 AM   #7621
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Why is fuel filter between the pump & regulator?

I've seen lots of posts about in tank and outside tank filters and their benefits.

Could someone explain to me the rationale for why the filter is between the pump and the regulator - presumably there is a reason for having it there rather than where the disconnect is (outside the tank)?

The fuel going to the regulator from the pump has already passed through the mesh screen before entering the pump so why does it need to be filtered again? Is the regulator that sensitive?

Why not just connect the pump to the regulator (without the filter) and put a filter in place of the disconnect?

Any explanations appreciated........
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #7622
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I've seen lots of posts about in tank and outside tank filters and their benefits.

Could someone explain to me the rationale for why the filter is between the pump and the regulator - presumably there is a reason for having it there rather than where the disconnect is (outside the tank)?

The fuel going to the regulator from the pump has already passed through the mesh screen before entering the pump so why does it need to be filtered again? Is the regulator that sensitive?

Why not just connect the pump to the regulator (without the filter) and put a filter in place of the disconnect?

Any explanations appreciated........
Some of us do just that. I moved mine outside and reduced the tubing mess in the tank considerably. I can swap filters at any interval I choose now without much fuss.
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:54 AM   #7623
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I've seen lots of posts about in tank and outside tank filters and their benefits.

Could someone explain to me the rationale for why the filter is between the pump and the regulator - presumably there is a reason for having it there rather than where the disconnect is (outside the tank)?

The fuel going to the regulator from the pump has already passed through the mesh screen before entering the pump so why does it need to be filtered again? Is the regulator that sensitive?

Why not just connect the pump to the regulator (without the filter) and put a filter in place of the disconnect?

Any explanations appreciated........
Good question. I do not have an answer since I do not know the details of how a regulator works. I once took apart the in-tank fuel filter. The filter material was darker colored compared to a new one but that seemed to be due to being exposed to gas rather than being clogged. There was no debris in the screen or the filter. For now I left the in-tank fuel filter and added an external one in place of the quick disconnect in order to minimize the chances of the injector clogging. Probably overkill. My 09 has 11,000 miles on it and I have never had a fuel related issue. I replaced the stock fuel pump a long time ago with one from CA Cycleworks.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:38 AM   #7624
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KTM 690 Carbon/Kevlar Parts

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give you all a heads up. I posted up an add for the Carbon Fiber/Kevlar rally style skid plate and carbon fiber exhaust guards for sale over in the Vendor section. Here's a link to pics. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.

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Old 03-06-2013, 12:26 PM   #7625
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Rear brake pads

Having a bit of a problem getting them back in. The pad away from the piston rotates down on the bolt as if there's nothing to keep it up on the front end. The owners manual says "Check that leaf spring (5) in the brake caliper and sliding plate (6) in the brake caliper are seated correctly." The picture next to the words shows the leaf spring and sliding plate. But I don't see a sliding plate in my brake caliper. Just the leaf spring which is positioned properly. I can't find this "sliding plate" in the spare parts manual, nor did anything fall out when I removed the pads.
But I can't get the referenced pad to stay put, up in the caliper. I'm obviously missing something. Help.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:37 PM   #7626
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If you spread the caliper all the way out there is a small gap that the pad can drop thru. I had this happen to me.
With the wheel off you can put the pad back into the groove. Push on the brakes a bit to put the caliper close enough to keep them in before putting the wheel on. Wheel still on takes pulling that PITA pin to get the pads off. Then put back on.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:40 PM   #7627
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I also slotted the forward airbox mount tabs so I can remove the airbox without pulling the Rally tanks, which included cutting up a engineered design..... works better now with better engineering

This sounds interesting, do you have any pictures?
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:19 PM   #7628
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If you spread the caliper all the way out there is a small gap that the pad can drop thru. I had this happen to me.
With the wheel off you can put the pad back into the groove. Push on the brakes a bit to put the caliper close enough to keep them in before putting the wheel on. Wheel still on takes pulling that PITA pin to get the pads off. Then put back on.
Got it! Pushing on the brake a bit was the key. Thanks.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:15 PM   #7629
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Some of us do just that. I moved mine outside and reduced the tubing mess in the tank considerably. I can swap filters at any interval I choose now without much fuss.
Anyone care to post the material and procedure here? Will then get it posted to the Wiki.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:26 PM   #7630
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Anyone care to post the material and procedure here? Will then get it posted to the Wiki.
I used the existing Wiki fuel pump post to do the inside with some tweaks removing the plastic lines all together. As far as outside, there seems to be a variety of opinions on locations for the filter. I chose my location to allow easy access for changes.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:28 PM   #7631
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BTW Thanks for keeping that Wiki up. It has been extremely helpful to me in getting all those little things taken care of.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:37 PM   #7632
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For the 690's, I don't believe that is correct. I believe that option is only for newer 990's...

http://tuneecu.com/TuneECU_En/mapedit.html
Just did a reset two days ago. For those not sure, read page 169 of the 690 shop manual.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:42 PM   #7633
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BTW Thanks for keeping that Wiki up. It has been extremely helpful to me in getting all those little things taken care of.
I'd love to take credit for the 690 Wiki but MuffinMan and others have really made it happen.

The fuel filter relocate to the exterior is a common question here and would be great to have this on the Wiki.

Anyone have a step-by-step?
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:50 PM   #7634
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Anyone care to post the material and procedure here? Will then get it posted to the Wiki.
Where is the Wiki?
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:54 PM   #7635
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Where is the Wiki?
google search: ADV KTM 690 WIKI

or:

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=846888
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